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In reply to the discussion: So how does this end well? I mean, really? [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)200. It is the "Villain Rotation" Scam
There are always just enough Democrats joining ranks with Republicans to ensure the 1% always gets what it wants, and the Working Class gets stuck with the tab.
In my younger, naive days, I believed that the Voting Record was the Touchstone by which the bad Democrats could be separated from the good ones.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Votes are traded and sold freely,
with always just enough to betray the Working Class continuously with no single Dem taking ALL the heat.
Most of DU still doesn't get that,
and we ponder excuses for WHY a normally solid appearing Dem suddenly turns against Party on a particular vote.
....but he/she "votes with the party 91% of the time, so its OK."
The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it.
One minute, its Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity;
...the next minute, its Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and breaking with their party to ensure Michael Mukaseys confirmation as Attorney General;
...then its Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion;
...then its Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists;
....and now that they cant blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they dont need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.
<more>
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
One minute, its Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity;
...the next minute, its Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and breaking with their party to ensure Michael Mukaseys confirmation as Attorney General;
...then its Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion;
...then its Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists;
....and now that they cant blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they dont need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.
<more>
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/

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Sorry, but y'all got way more than your fare share of kooks...which would only become
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#20
I'd say election results indicate the West Coast has either fewer or more Democratic 'kooks'
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#81
Oh, no. There are scattered alternative communities and individuals in N. Central and
Zorra
Oct 2013
#120
I like Peaceful Valley a lot. Spokane's not a real big city, but it has twice the population
Zorra
Oct 2013
#166
Sandpoint is great but it is cold. Seems a lot colder than when I was a kid.
grantcart
Oct 2013
#183
No I escaped. But jump into the Pend Oreille and you will see serious shrinkage.
grantcart
Oct 2013
#185
The United States of Canada, Le Québec, and the Jesusland Confederacy:
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#142
Some maps give southern sections like the Republic of Orange to Mexico. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#148
"manipulated" ...that's the word I've been looking for to describe them...thanks!
tofuandbeer
Oct 2013
#53
The DC DEMS seem to always treat the GOP as serious, good-faith actors in Governing, in the face of
blkmusclmachine
Oct 2013
#18
It's because this lunacy is all a quite rational way to propel the Center-Right Austerity agenda
leveymg
Oct 2013
#67
I "voiced" this at length when the Austerity by Default selective shutdown started, here:
leveymg
Oct 2013
#94
The Deal comes next, now that we've been worn out by the only seeming alternative: another "crisis"
leveymg
Oct 2013
#99
Yeah, I posted what turned out to be a pretty long and many recced thread.......
socialist_n_TN
Oct 2013
#165
that's the problem, isn't it? It is they who legitimize the third way - by making the third way the
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2013
#4
Attacking Dems like Obama only strengthens people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. n/t
Cali_Democrat
Oct 2013
#12
+ 1000. There were also times when I saw perfectly sensible Liberals support Ron and Rand Paul.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#16
Ignoring bad acts by Democrats only strengthens thosein the Democratic party who act badly . [n/t]
Maedhros
Oct 2013
#63
Do you think Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are as good as we can ever manage, though?
Scootaloo
Oct 2013
#140
If dems would act like dems, they wouldn't need barrels of corporate cash to get elected.
CrispyQ
Oct 2013
#102
It's amazing to me that Obama never realized that "splitting the difference" isn't change.
MannyGoldstein
Oct 2013
#188
There are no intellectual borders keeping sane thought out of moran enclaves in a wired world
Coyotl
Oct 2013
#10
Yes because Oregon and Washington have no trees or parks at all and California's Redwood
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#85
Whatever, but my Wife & I will be staying with whatever piece gets New Orleans,
bvar22
Oct 2013
#112
Give 'em your spleen, they'll want your pancreas. Give 'em the pancreas, they'll want your liver
NBachers
Oct 2013
#51
All of this is very depressing...its almost like they are doing the happy dance
yuiyoshida
Oct 2013
#33
The stock market hasn't dropped 3% in a single day, that is what is going to happen
grantcart
Oct 2013
#92
What do you mean by "well?" The usual meaning won't apply, unless it includes "chaoitic."
hooverville29
Oct 2013
#56
maybe attacking them instead of our President would be a better use of your talents?
scheming daemons
Oct 2013
#60
Maybe attacking Republicans instead of hawking TPP, a Grand Bargain, and
MannyGoldstein
Oct 2013
#151
Thanks. Reminds me of the Flip Wilson days...I promise not to say "the good ol' days". Not.
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#181
I think you have finally realized why it is so difficult for President Obama to govern this nation.
DCBob
Oct 2013
#137
It just stands to reason, if Marbles in my mouth Limbaugh is their Guru
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2013
#153
How? Buy stock in Diebold or whatever company counts the votes and you, too, can be happy or
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#162
They've always been there, way out on the fringe. Curse the establishment that gave them crediblity!
mountain grammy
Oct 2013
#180
Wall Street and their media minions weaponized the stupid. It's up to them to defuse it n/t
Azathoth
Oct 2013
#189