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sweetloukillbot

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127. It's purple

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:45 PM

Oct 2013

Tucson is blue, but there's a lot of rural Southeast Arizona in that district too - the racist ranchers who shoot undocumented immigrants crossing their lands. Minutemen types.
Gabby was a moderate who won over an arch conservative running to replace a gay Republican disgraced in a sex scandal And she barely won reelection in 2010. Barber barely won as well, with a libertarian or independent (don't remember which) splitting the Tea Party vote. Arizona's Republican lawmakers passed a law that will pretty much make it impossible for 3rd party candidates to run in 2014, so the numbers don't look as good for Barber in 2014 - assuming the current crisis doesn't nuke the Republican's chance.
Sinema is the same way - she squeaked in by beating a tea partier and a libertarian because the incumbent, Quayle, decided to run in a safe district against another incumbent Republican.
They're covering their asses for the 2014 campaign, as much as I find it distasteful (and have let Sinema know) I understand why they are doing it.

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The Seven Lying Democrats That Betrayed Democracy, and Joined GOP on HR 368 to Deny Vote on Clean CR [View all] kpete Oct 2013 OP

Presumably Boehner could force another rule change to take control back from Cantor BlueStreak Oct 2013 #1

I'm sure it was a procedural thing melody Oct 2013 #16

They better have an excuse like that Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #39

Thank you. These 7 should be called out for their subversion of democracy. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #2

They look like DINOs to me. nt SDjack Oct 2013 #7

Me too. nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #21

What does a DINO look like? Z_California Oct 2013 #40

Kinda scaly, from gray to orange. SDjack Oct 2013 #64

Like them. Fuddnik Oct 2013 #122

Very lizard-like. woo me with science Oct 2013 #130

That one from AZ no dino. He's a freshshit. Took the place of the one lonestarnot Oct 2013 #44

wth Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #94

tth lonestarnot Oct 2013 #96

Were you unable to recall Gifford's name or is there some sort of derision involved? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #97

Couldn't remember her name. Don't really like her either. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #98

OK, but why not focus on what she's done that you don't like rather than her being shot in the head? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #99

What has she done. Run around to gun shows and buy guns. We already lonestarnot Oct 2013 #100

Collin Peterson is the rep of my parent's district. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #134

They can't be that stupid, they knew what Cantor stood for and what would happen as a result. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #14

It makes no sense. There were already 221 GOP votes. Their votes weren't needed to pass it. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #20

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #51

those were the ones that were PAID for... CTyankee Oct 2013 #54

Because now the meme can be that both Dems and Republicans voted against a clean CR... CoffeeCat Oct 2013 #72

So who "orchestrated/staged" the 7's votes? nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #79

What the wholly fuck do the assholes think Cha Oct 2013 #3

they're probably Sleepers. Whisp Oct 2013 #5

They weren't even needed. There were already 221 GOP votes; only 217 was needed to pass. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #24

Need to have your blood pressure raised? thecrow Oct 2013 #4

Ron Barber AZ-2 BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #6

Makes even less sense since Arizona expanded Medicaid. ProSense Oct 2013 #52

Colonel Sanders? nt Snotcicles Oct 2013 #57

Did they even know what they were voting for? Emit Oct 2013 #8

Collin Peterson MN AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #9

Viewed frequently as a Republican here. glinda Oct 2013 #18

Yep. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2013 #111

Sean Patrick Maloney Baloney Emit Oct 2013 #10

"In addition, our military servicemen and servicewomen pangaia Oct 2013 #28

Teabaggers gone wild!!!!!! pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #47

Hope I didn't ruin your night. pangaia Oct 2013 #66

Why am I not surprised Collin Peterson is on that list? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #11

I expected to see Clown Peterson on that list of fools. Ugh. Owl Oct 2013 #101

WTF! Were they thinking! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #12

This should go viral. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #13

And then their offices deluged with phone calls Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #60

They may carry the "Democrat" name on the election ballot but INdemo Oct 2013 #15

But... But... But... We NEED these blue ball Democrats don't we? nt. Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #17

@$$#0(e$ yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #19

Baka! is right. PeoViejo Oct 2013 #31

Honmaya Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #50

un, tabun yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #55

Barrow is a waste of skin. Trying to appease the Ga repukes who still hate him NightWatcher Oct 2013 #22

Give it up, John! trishtrash Oct 2013 #114

And again we are conned. The familiar "rotating villains" strategy. woo me with science Oct 2013 #23

But these 7 votes run counter to GG's "rotating villains" theory. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #27

No, it doesn't "run counter" at all. woo me with science Oct 2013 #36

It was not that close. There were 4 -5 spare GOP votes. These DINO's 7 were totally unnecessary. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #80

As per the unwritten rules for obligatory corporate Dem propaganda responses, woo me with science Oct 2013 #102

woa... I have to read this. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #106

If you spend time reading these for substance, you will be disappointed. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #131

What a diversionary, distorting reply, woo me with science Oct 2013 #133

You fail to cite one falsehood, despite paragraphs of trying. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #138

The propaganda will always be mystified at why Democrats betrayed us "this time." woo me with science Oct 2013 #140

Other than these 7, there have been remarkably few "betrayals" in this shutdown crisis. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #141

ohhh...thanks Sun. you may have just saved me some time. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #135

Nope. woo me with science Oct 2013 #137

Having been shown your GG theory isn't applicable here, you resort to personal attacks. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #117

Arguing that my accurate description of the *arguments* and *tactics* in your posts woo me with science Oct 2013 #136

Calling me a "corporate Dem" is a personal attack, is factually wrong and is bullying. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #139

I think *some* Dems voted against a clean CR... CoffeeCat Oct 2013 #73

Are you saying these 7 did it because they wanted to provide cover to Republicans? SunSeeker Oct 2013 #82

They probably did it because they come from red districts pnwmom Oct 2013 #84

Thanks. That mundane reality would explain it, but not excuse it. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #118

It's purple sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #127

Thanks for the info. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #128

None of these votes were needed so . . . so much for that theory. nt pnwmom Oct 2013 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #83

Excellent Post Z_California Oct 2013 #42

Excellent Analysis... 2banon Oct 2013 #59

A thanks from me too. Plucketeer Oct 2013 #62

Thanks for the great informative post. I had figured out about half of this, but GoneFishin Oct 2013 #67

K&R for exposure of criminals! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #25

They are seven nobodies. Less than zero, given what they've done. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #26

These fuckers should be KICKED OUT of the party! DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #29

I live in John Barrow's district. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #30

Precisely why the Terms of Service need to be reworked. RC Oct 2013 #70

Perfect! L0oniX Oct 2013 #113

this post of yours... woo me with science Oct 2013 #143

ALERTING! bashing democrats only helps the GOP! KG Oct 2013 #32

Nah, that's apparently these seven reps' jobs. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #48

Interesting. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #33

And none of these votes affected the outcome. pnwmom Oct 2013 #35

Whole lotta speculation ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #37

Speculation, but educated speculation. pnwmom Oct 2013 #38

I'll just stick with speculation. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #46

Is there a single district in this nation which elected a Democrat yet supports a shutdown? Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #45

Barber won a tight race in AZ that will be even tighter next year sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #49

That's what I figured. And we wouldn't be in this mess pnwmom Oct 2013 #53

What do you mean 'Nancy Pelosi released them to vote'? They are sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #74

They are supposed to get re-elected. Depending on how red their district is, pnwmom Oct 2013 #75

Who says 'they are supposed to get reelected'??? The people are supposed to sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #77

They are supposed to defeat the Rethug candidate. Do you disagree with that? pnwmom Oct 2013 #85

Yes. I disagree with that. Winning the next election should not be the end game. cui bono Oct 2013 #86

Those representatives did serve the public interest. They didn't threaten the vote result -- pnwmom Oct 2013 #87

Well, I truly believe they should vote for what is right. cui bono Oct 2013 #90

Dennis Kucinich fought with passion, but it didn't help him pnwmom Oct 2013 #91

But just think if everyone did it. It would be unstoppable. cui bono Oct 2013 #125

No, if we ran progressives like Kucinich in every conservative district pnwmom Oct 2013 #126

Who won that election? Who beat Dennis Kucinich? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #109

Representatives are elected to represent their districts sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #129

what's with the 2 from new york ? is that a conservative area or something ? JI7 Oct 2013 #41

Barrow was my Representative when I lived in Athens. mac56 Oct 2013 #43

Well we know 7 Democrats to challenge Phlem Oct 2013 #56

SHAME ON THEM!!!!! calimary Oct 2013 #58

Thanks kpete for posting. red dog 1 Oct 2013 #61

red dog 1 kpete Oct 2013 #63

Mike McIntyre MFrohike Oct 2013 #65

Five hundred and Twenty Three. mwooldri Oct 2013 #116

Yep MFrohike Oct 2013 #132

More evidence that the Democratic Party leadership has been taken over by conservatives. Scuba Oct 2013 #68

One corporate party, two faces. nt woo me with science Oct 2013 #103

... Scuba Oct 2013 #104

Remember if you donate to the DNC these nitwits will most likely get part of it. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #71

Okay I am confused as to the rationale. dkf Oct 2013 #76

I'm sure there are pork barrel government contracts in their districts on the chopping block Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #108

How can I count on my NY and my MN peeps? Loudly Oct 2013 #78

CAREERIST! There many people in public office who simply look at their positions as their careers. Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #81

What kind of Dem do you think will win in a conservative district? pnwmom Oct 2013 #88

the vote to shut down the government is extremely unpopular - it would have hardly been risky Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #92

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Dems ended up with pnwmom Oct 2013 #93

I understand that real politic does mean sometimes compromising one's principles - hell it doesn't Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #95

If their districts are so feverishly far right that they can't avoid joining ranks with the sedition TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #123

How is it a "betrayal" if Pelosi released them to vote in this matter, pnwmom Oct 2013 #89

How many of them up for relection in 2014? Rockyj Oct 2013 #105

Its the three from Minnesota and New York I don't get. How desperate for a job are they .... marble falls Oct 2013 #107

I tweeted Maloney........ Historic NY Oct 2013 #110

I am sure other Dems wanted to do the same but they aren't THAT stupid to actually do it. L0oniX Oct 2013 #112

Jim Matheson (DINO, Utah) Stainless Oct 2013 #115

They need to be primaried. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #119

was this procedural? and their votes would not have made a difference anyway? Sunlei Oct 2013 #120

I learned Maloney was a fraud when he ran for AG in NY Renew Deal Oct 2013 #121

why do you think they're called 'blue dog' Democrat? heaven05 Oct 2013 #124

wow. 2 from ny. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #142

They need to be 'punished' Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2013 #144