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23. What about the places where there ARE no federally-paid personnel?

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:19 PM

Oct 2013

Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia gets NO funding or personnel from the govt, but was told to close because of the shutdown. Only because it sits on federal land. It is maintained by non-government people and has never been closed during previous govt shutdowns. No government people do anything there.
Another, Mt Vernon, pretty much the same story. It is privately owned and operated but one of their parking lots is federal property but not maintained by the govt. I believe that particular order has since been reversed. There are many similar stories.

What you mention above may have merit in some situations, but there is no need to close a highway pull off to look at a darn mountain. If its because there's no park employees working, then the entire highway should be closed since it runs through federal land. I drive on highways every day (my job puts me on the road a LOT) that run through federal land. None of them are closed.

Not to mention how much manpower is being spent to DO these closings. There are plenty of parks and monuments where there are no federal personnel working.
Obviously most folks here disagree with me, but I just think it would be different if baby bush was still president.

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The comments made me lose my breakfast! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #9

I didn't understand why they were involved at all. LisaLynne Oct 2013 #10

Occupy and similar groups drew attention to what the PTB's would rather you ignore. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #11

Sorry, but I'm off the reservation on this one. These "closings" are bullshit 7962 Oct 2013 #12

I disagree but even if I didn't. fuck the asswipe vandalizing, thieving, racist pig cali Oct 2013 #14

Parks and memorials are just symbols Beaverhausen Oct 2013 #15

Agree! There's a question of perspective here. We need food inspectors working, mountain grammy Oct 2013 #18

Of course we do! I agree the shutdown is ridiculous and a stupid GOP stunt. Thats not my point. 7962 Oct 2013 #21

If there are supposed to be federally-paid personnel to patrol, safeguard, collect money, pick TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #22

What about the places where there ARE no federally-paid personnel? 7962 Oct 2013 #23

Just because you don't see someone (ranger, etc.) doesn't TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #24

So, you support this joeglow3 Oct 2013 #26

"Support" is a weird word to use. This is just one of the reasons, though, that the GOP TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #28

Why did none of this happen in past shutdowns joeglow3 Oct 2013 #32

I assume a lot of it depends on the timing and funding at hand. Oct. 1st is the start of the fiscal TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #34

I dont think its a "plot", just a show. The sites I mention use no federal people or money. 7962 Oct 2013 #29

Oh Christ. It's not a SHOW, it's a CONSEQUENCE. Only a Repub thinks Obama's making a show TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #30

Actually that proves my point. Theyre letting the states foot the bill on those sites, 7962 Oct 2013 #36

It's funding. That's my entire point. If someone else steps up to run the site at their TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #37

My own example shows how. 7962 Oct 2013 #39

Geez not this again. What evidence do you have of your assertion Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #25

You dont need to wait, just read my posts. Its very simple. 7962 Oct 2013 #31

Here's my reply with links: Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #40

My examples use no federal money or personnel 7962 Oct 2013 #41

So what does that have to do with the fact these confederates Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #27

Agreed. It is childish to close off park access. Emelina Oct 2013 #33

I too think the GOP is childish for closing off park access. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #35

I imagine many people will rationalize a non-binding exception for the services and grounds they the LanternWaste Oct 2013 #43

17K posts and you've never felt the wrath of those here who disagree with you? 7962 Oct 2013 #44

Yeah! Pepper spray for all bluedeathray Oct 2013 #13

and just where did anyone suggest pepper spray? cali Oct 2013 #16

Nope. Refering to UC Davis protest bluedeathray Oct 2013 #20

check out the comments section if you have a strong stomach SHRED Oct 2013 #17

We're playing chess. not checkers.... Adrahil Oct 2013 #19

I read a number of comments, big mistake G_j Oct 2013 #38

God I have been asking that since Sunday gopiscrap Oct 2013 #42