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regnaD kciN

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35. Under our system of government, THERE ISN'T ONE…

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:38 PM

Oct 2013

Asking for PBO to come up with some miraculous cure is only buying into the Teapublican meme that "the President could avoid the default, if he really wanted to" -- which is the rationale they will use to call for HIS impeachment after THEY force the country into default.

Besides, even the unusual methods proposed (like the trillion-dollar coin, declaring the debt limit unconstitutional, and so on) wouldn't stave off the damage in the international financial community, which needs to see us regain a stable process of paying our debts, not gimmicks to keep from defaulting. And, while it would be emotionally-satisfying to see Obama enact those state-of-emergency powers demanded by Dubya, and ship the Tea-liban off to Gitmo, does anyone think we would avert any damage in the world economic community's eyes by doing so?

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OK Mr. President--- What is the contingency plan? [View all] trumad Oct 2013 OP

At this point, to hell with everything!!! Lobo27 Oct 2013 #1

the problem with using the 14th is questionseverything Oct 2013 #15

It can be done after we default. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #24

we must not default questionseverything Oct 2013 #32

We are only the "preferred" currency because of the momentum of the jtuck004 Oct 2013 #52

+1 Heather MC Oct 2013 #59

+2 davidwparker Oct 2013 #62

a lot of noise.... questionseverything Oct 2013 #67

"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." jtuck004 Oct 2013 #68

i honestly can not tell what policy you are advocating questionseverything Oct 2013 #71

People preaching from the corner of "Denial" and "Head Stuck in the Sand" often talk of jtuck004 Oct 2013 #72

i am not a big fan of the fed questionseverything Oct 2013 #73

economic hitman part 2 questionseverything Oct 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author jtuck004 Oct 2013 #75

"...we are just getting our money back..." - Only if by we you mean Jamie Dimon, jtuck004 Oct 2013 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author jtuck004 Oct 2013 #77

Not following. davidwparker Oct 2013 #61

i agree invoking the 14th is legal questionseverything Oct 2013 #66

He doesn't need to do anything. Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #2

But they're also destroying America. progressoid Oct 2013 #6

This fight had to be fought. It's *always* been about who receives the blame. phantom power Oct 2013 #20

Just like every other day. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #27

I'm all for the self-destruction of the GOP progressoid Oct 2013 #39

I know, but if we don't hold the line here Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #53

+1 davidwparker Oct 2013 #64

To be clear, I don't want us to cave (again). progressoid Oct 2013 #70

It's all about the democracy. davidwparker Oct 2013 #63

Every time in the past that the Dems wimped out pocoloco Oct 2013 #65

Make no mistake, I'm not advocating wimping out. progressoid Oct 2013 #69

jump on the TV and remind people again what the GOP is doing to us Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #3

+oo phantom power Oct 2013 #7

oh...guessing that's infinity? lol. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #9

yep. maybe I shouldn't assume that's clear... phantom power Oct 2013 #12

Alt+236 DireStrike Oct 2013 #16

Hear, hear!! 2naSalit Oct 2013 #8

I would stand, cheer and salute the flag to see these fuckwits removed from the floor BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #10

Use the military to remove elected Congress members? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #22

and yes....I was being serious about that, right? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #26

The President is the Commander in Chief of the military who took the Oath of Allegiance PADemD Oct 2013 #47

Uh, no. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #49

Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines state the Oath of Allegiance PADemD Oct 2013 #50

Yes! And frogmarch Oct 2013 #40

One of the first things you learn as a military officer ..... oldhippie Oct 2013 #46

Even using my wildest imagination, I can't imagine a scenario I wouldn't accept. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #4

It's my hope that today he is sitting back just enjoying their Autumn Oct 2013 #5

A speech at around noon tomorrow, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #11

He doesn't need one Progressive dog Oct 2013 #13

Don't dump this on him flamingdem Oct 2013 #14

this is the job of CONGRESS to pay the bills and spend the $$$ NightWatcher Oct 2013 #17

Reid passes our bill in the Senate, and jams it up the House's rear end. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #18

ALL spending bills have to originate in teh House dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #25

clearly not true. Senate passed the CR and was trying to get House to do likewise. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #29

As I was saying, to the person who posted the comment. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #56

Remember all of those mini-CRs where the House tried to open part of the geek tragedy Oct 2013 #31

Instead of Social Security Checks Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #19

'cept those "checks" are now direct deposits dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #28

Damn you and your awesome grasp on reality! Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #30

I'm sorry..... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #36

No! Thanks for the info! Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #38

I think the SS payments still go out, as do medicare, and interest on the debt. mostlyconfused Oct 2013 #60

Ya can't blink now. It is almost over. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #21

One word for the Reeps and Teapers: ananda Oct 2013 #23

Why does he not go on TV and use that bully pulpit to call these assholes out? alarimer Oct 2013 #33

Sounds like teahadist wants to play chicken Hutzpa Oct 2013 #34

Under our system of government, THERE ISN'T ONE… regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #35

Contingency plan execution has been delegated to the appropriate agency. Zorra Oct 2013 #37

Good time to change filibuster laws. Public would welcome any changes that wiggs Oct 2013 #41

Also...can he not get a preliminary reading from SCOTUS on 14th amendment wiggs Oct 2013 #42

His legal advisors are over at the DOJ, if I understand correctly. Hekate Oct 2013 #48

He needs to make an address to the public in prime time from the Oval Office steve2470 Oct 2013 #43

Obama still insists he won't do anything without Republican's blessings? blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #44

Not exactly what he's been saying. They just have to do their job so he can do his... Hekate Oct 2013 #51

Agreed Eddie Haskell Oct 2013 #45

Absolutely, well said! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #54

"We have your back Mr. President...do what you must." OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #55

How about a "Signing Statement" Submariner Oct 2013 #57

Not 30-40 radicals. The house majority of Republicans, unanimously or almost. delrem Oct 2013 #58