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Proud Liberal Dem

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44. That sort of thinking *seems* reasonable
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 01:10 PM
Mar 2012

until you stop and consider just how necessary/appropriate drug testing for most jobs actually is. It certainly makes sense in a job where you are operating machinery/equipment and/or caring for children, etc. but in other jobs like, say, random desk jobs, nobody is (usually) going to die if you show up for work high/intoxicated. Likewise, nobody is going to die if welfare recipients are using either. It's not desirable, of course, but "because other people have to take drug tests for EMPLOYMENT" isn't (shouldn't be) a good enough reason IMHO for welfare applicants/recipients to have to do it. In fact, people should really stop and think more about why THEY should HAVE to take drug tests just to get a job as well. Most people, I'm sure, do it because, well, they need a job and relatively few of us can afford to be picky about such things but sometimes I think that we all should start paying a little more attention to our rights and freedoms and how they're slowly being whittled away by things like drug testing for employment (in all but a few circumstances).

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......... Sherman A1 Mar 2012 #1
Because it's a vast waste of money mainer Mar 2012 #2
There is that, too. But faux populist poor-bashing is good for stirring up the base. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #5
Actually in Florida welfare recipients were found LESS likely to test positive csziggy Mar 2012 #11
isn't the governor of florida making money off of his policy newspeak Mar 2012 #36
So is his medical company, Solantic. nt tsuki Mar 2012 #43
Thanks - I couldn't remember if was the Gov or his buddies csziggy Mar 2012 #45
Well if you hadn't given up your right to bargain.... Bennyboy Mar 2012 #3
Florida tried this with welfare recipients titaniumsalute Mar 2012 #4
I am drug tested for my occupation. mick063 Mar 2012 #6
mick...I am also "random" drug tested because I work in public transportation. PearliePoo2 Mar 2012 #21
The problem is that for most non-alcohol drug testing..... PavePusher Mar 2012 #31
My answer is: Take a look at Kestrel's question in post 7. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #47
If you don't mind my asking, where do you work? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #48
Active Duty U.S. Air Force. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #49
What physical danger would testing welfare recipients protect the public from, kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #7
I don't like that "let's test elected officials, too" argument. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #12
Right 2pooped2pop Mar 2012 #18
Freedom B Calm Mar 2012 #29
Unemployment comp is not welfare! B Calm Mar 2012 #32
My mother thought along the same lines. unapatriciated Mar 2012 #34
What really kills me are the drug testing for unemployment benefit bills. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #8
I think the "logic" goes like this The Genealogist Mar 2012 #9
Because you are going to give them the money ANYWAY. aquart Mar 2012 #10
The Republicans only want to spend the money on police and prisons csziggy Mar 2012 #17
How about this: Turbineguy Mar 2012 #13
Our Governor, senators, Representatives must be tested too rustydog Mar 2012 #14
Except that would be unconstitutional. But... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #20
Iam surprised at the hypocritical "concern" about drug use rustydog Mar 2012 #30
Because... Spanky32 Mar 2012 #15
Am I the only one that feels disconnected every time someone says this left is right Mar 2012 #22
Cuz you can change your job. You can't change your welfare. ClassWarrior Mar 2012 #16
Yeah, go after the little people. Let the real welfare addicts off the hook i.e. Big Oil, Wall St, FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #19
And if they have drugs in their system, then what? Sparkly Mar 2012 #23
What does (did) the Florida do to them if positive Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #46
So what would it cost B Calm Mar 2012 #24
Ok That is fine by me as long as the pompous A$$'s demanding it are tested regularly also! sce56 Mar 2012 #25
Screw it, test everybody. Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #26
If the aim is to save money on "welfare", it might make better sense to take the money which would mother earth Mar 2012 #27
What happen to Probable Cause? B Calm Mar 2012 #28
A lot of people on welfare have to take the bus. Why shouldn't you have to take the bus also? yellowcanine Mar 2012 #33
I wonder if medical labs doing the testing lobbied for this mainer Mar 2012 #35
most likely Johonny Mar 2012 #38
My husband is drug-tested regularly and we're okay with that... cynatnite Mar 2012 #37
In order to get welfare you have to be broke and Drugs cost money Viva Mar 2012 #39
Just my opinion ckimmy57 Mar 2012 #40
the premise really is the elephant in the room iverglas Mar 2012 #41
I've been volunteering to get drug tested every week for onethatcares Mar 2012 #42
That sort of thinking *seems* reasonable Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #44
Do people even know who is on welfare??? KatyMan Mar 2012 #50
That's exactly the mentality Indiana Mar 2012 #51
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