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pinboy3niner

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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:46 PM

Oct 2013

Also, notably, here are some of the demands that Republicans have made in the last few days, but that are NOT in the bill:

No repeal of the “extraordinary measures” provision that allows the Treasury to do accounting tricks to avoid default

No ‘Vitter Amendment‘ that would have taken away employer contributions from the health plans of Congressional staff

No provisions related to birth control access

No flexibility in how government agencies make budget cuts to their programs, as they are required to under sequestration

No repeal or delay of the medical device tax

No repeal or delay of the reinsurance tax

No repeal, replacement, or delay of any aspects of Obamacare’s exchanges or individual mandate

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/10/15/2779001/debt-ceiling-shutdown-liveblog/

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Signs of Real Victory [View all] RobertEarl Oct 2013 OP

Trumps Hutzpa Oct 2013 #1

You have to win the battles to win the war. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #2

Some people are happy if they can stomp all over any Democratic victory. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #4

Yet you're declaring a victory for teabaggers without ProSense Oct 2013 #3

+1 Kaleva Oct 2013 #5

You are deluded RobertEarl Oct 2013 #8

You're absurd ProSense Oct 2013 #10

Not sure someone with an avatar for a GOP healthcare plan should comment on what's lame. Dawgs Oct 2013 #19

Here's a clue ProSense Oct 2013 #27

Got it. You're partisan and blind. n/t Dawgs Oct 2013 #34

So you're not "partisan" if you're hyping this as teabagger win? ProSense Oct 2013 #39

Not sure you know what "partisan" means. Dawgs Oct 2013 #48

You are projecting RobertEarl Oct 2013 #21

No ProSense Oct 2013 #24

Lololol. Taking this awfully hard, aren't you? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #29

Wow. Talk about completely missing the point. Dawgs Oct 2013 #37

We have. We meet every Tuesday for "paid shill" coordination Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #41

Great. I hope it's less embarrassing than what you post here. n/t Dawgs Oct 2013 #44

Battle are only won when the objectives are met. Objectives were not met, hence, no win... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #92

+2 and... pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #9

+1 Raine1967 Oct 2013 #11

That offends you? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #15

You just called everyone who doesn't agree with you an enabler. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #23

You do understand? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #49

No, you talking to Duers like Ted Cruz talks to people is what's offending people nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #28

+1000 n/t Aerows Oct 2013 #47

No. Cruz does not offend moderates RobertEarl Oct 2013 #54

Did you really just write "Cruz does not offend moderates?" nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #64

Yes. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #69

I think you're starting to drift away from Cruz and towards Gohmert with that line. Better quit geek tragedy Oct 2013 #70

And Ghomert too RobertEarl Oct 2013 #73

Oh dear lord, is this sincere or performance art? nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #76

I'm trying to figure that out as well. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #79

Stating that "Cruz does not offend moderates" renders you slightly less credible than Sarah Palin. 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #78

Really? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #82

Right off the top of my head, Tom Davis, former Republican congressman from NOVA. 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #85

RobertEarl didn't say "victory". He said they won THIS battle. Dawgs Oct 2013 #12

What is the substantive difference between a win and a victory? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #52

I'll give you an answer in a month when none of this will matter anymore. n/t Dawgs Oct 2013 #55

Which would be a victory. Kaleva Oct 2013 #60

Piss in your own Corn Flakes. Many of us prefer ours dry, or with milk. 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #6

Or on our fried chicken Aerows Oct 2013 #50

*GASP* pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #58

Just kidding Aerows Oct 2013 #61

Oh, now you've done it! 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #74

LMAO n/t Aerows Oct 2013 #77

$10 Minimum wage is a MUST on my list. Dawgs Oct 2013 #7

Indeed. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #13

$25 minimum wage ProSense Oct 2013 #18

First of all, no one has surrendered yet. Dawgs Oct 2013 #25

Hahahaha! Funny funny stuff. Even outright capitulation doesn't do it Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #36

I give, since this is a game to you. What did Democrats get out of this? Dawgs Oct 2013 #42

The last whimper of legitimate opposition to Obamacare Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #46

Obamacare was NEVER going to be touched with Obama as President. Dawgs Oct 2013 #53

What the hell are you talking about? ProSense Oct 2013 #66

Read it loud and clear. n/t Dawgs Oct 2013 #80

Thanks, I've veen waiting for you to give me permission to celebrate. mulsh Oct 2013 #14

SS payments ARE keeping up with inflation. YaY! We won! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16

Great centrist view RobertEarl Oct 2013 #26

No, this is a rambling from a person who wants to create division. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #17

Division? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #33

You might want to look up the definition of straw man. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #45

I did RobertEarl Oct 2013 #57

Well. Ok. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #65

Eh? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #68

Nah, we should celebrate the victories just as we mourn the losses and move forward. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #20

Your last sentence is a perfect impersonation of Ted Cruz and his geek tragedy Oct 2013 #22

You are projecting RobertEarl Oct 2013 #30

LMAO. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #35

You sound exactly like a teabagger,just exchange "left" sufrommich Oct 2013 #40

Such ugly slander from you! RobertEarl Oct 2013 #62

It seems like you're pissed that the teabaggers got their asses kicked ProSense Oct 2013 #43

Your slander is not helping RobertEarl Oct 2013 #59

I can understand. Still, it is good to take stock of little victories. Xyzse Oct 2013 #31

While I would love to see the things you list Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #32

Dude, no one here needs your permission to gloat.nt sufrommich Oct 2013 #38

No kidding. HappyMe Oct 2013 #51

When I see them I will gloat. Meanwhile... LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #56

I'm a leftist...I'd love to see the things you list here become reality deutsey Oct 2013 #63

RobertEarl, your OP is nothing but flame bait. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #67

Says a shit stirrer RobertEarl Oct 2013 #71

lol! HappyMe Oct 2013 #81

Crush the moderates, first RobertEarl Oct 2013 #83

Nope, I don't want any of that. HappyMe Oct 2013 #84

Don't want any of the OP? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #86

Good grief! HappyMe Oct 2013 #87

Answer RobertEarl Oct 2013 #89

Don't attack others here HappyMe Oct 2013 #93

Moderates are enablers RobertEarl Oct 2013 #94

Good luck with that. HappyMe Oct 2013 #95

You appear to be creating your own definitions and supporting evidence, basing both your premises an LanternWaste Oct 2013 #96

Many of these Democratic moderates/centrists in Washington Broward Oct 2013 #72

Yep RobertEarl Oct 2013 #75

Not waiting for your permission... lame54 Oct 2013 #88

Signs of an actual GOP defeat: Not achieving any of the specific goals originally set... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #90

What a f**kin downer! AZ Progressive Oct 2013 #91

You need to celebrate when you win DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #97