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freshwest

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77. Those who call for impeachment when they have majority, lose big in the next election, doesn't
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:48 PM
Oct 2013
matter which part it is. The public sees it as not doing the business they were sent to do. That's why the Clinton impeachment got him a a second term.

And the GOP put up the best of their batshit posse on display in 2008 and 2012. Obama had to be bipartisan to sound sane to independents.

Only lunatic fringers like the birthers say impeach with every other breath. We see what happened to the GOP with Clinton.

If she'd led a charge to impeach and not take care of the mess Bush was creating, the GOP could have won. The brain washed public would see no difference, McCain and Palin would be running this country right now.

If your scenario had been followed, default would have been like paradise. I am glad to see you realize the costs in reality. Those who haven't lived the real apocalyptical reality that Europe did, and been informed by people there, don't know what they asking for when they think revolt is cool.

There is no way to say which way such things go and we can see the majority of land, money, will and ammunition lies with the rightwingers. With a civil war from martial law, what will be left to argue about?

People would be reduced to something most have never lived in and in that environment, justice is thrown out the window. Some may think they're mistreated now, but they have not seen what a civil war does and I find such talk rather juvenile and am glad you are mature to not indulge it.

She was thinking of the bigger victory, and so most we. Sometimes in life, we are end up with acknowledging some leaders are more mature than their base and wiser for not crying for blood.

Lincoln was such a man, Mandela and Tutu, too. Their people had great grievances, they could have exacted a heavy price on their nation's wrong doers and most wouldn't have faulted them.

That doesn't promote a civil society and the rule of law and the RWers are lusting for it, every day. I consider the different levels of power, strengths and weaknesses of the opposing sides.

When people get on Obama for not going after Bush, etc., they are speaking from the same place as baggers wanting PBO lynched, but think it's different because they are 'right and their cause is just.' Looked at historically, it's not.

I have learned to think long term. I can't afford cheap thrills that will cost more than they are worth. Satisfaction ain't all it's made out to be, what tastes sweet turns into something bitter.

Good talking to you, see you later.

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