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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: Boehner capitulates, will accept Senate Bill [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)77. Scammed by both parties. Again.
It never should have gone this far. The faux fiscal "crisis" should have been utterly rejected by a Democratic President TWO YEARS ago. Let's remember how we got started down this road of sequestrations and shutdowns in the first place. Republicans should have been slapped down hard then. Instead, the axe of sequestration was embraced by Democrats, and we got soaring speeches about eating our peas. None of this should have happened at all. It was orchestrated by corporatists in both parties, and now we have perpetual rule by shock doctrine. This is not a win, except for thieves in both parties. We have been scammed again.
Let's remember this critical point made by DUer, cui bono:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023864395
But what is in the bill being passed is a budget with sequestration. A bill with less spending than Ryan's budget.
And let's repeat a post by leveymg that also explains what is really going on here:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3839411
67. It's because this lunacy is all a quite rational way to propel the Center-Right Austerity agenda.
That's precisely why I don't believe this BS about 40 Teahadis being responsible for the "crisis."
A partial shutdown suits the deficit hawks in both parties just fine, since it's been adjusted so it doesn't actually impact payrolls in the military and Intelligence agencies. This is simply austerity and cuts to social programs without anyone having to actually vote for it, and that's making the Center-Right smile.
Of course, they won't allow actual default of the debt - the "threat" of that just another psychological device to make this seem like a real crisis. It's not - it's simply austerity by default.
Every single deal, every single orchestrated crisis, every single shock doctrine scam moves us further into corporate slavery. We are being played by both corporate parties, over and over again.
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Yeah, for now! We can look forward to going through this all over again two weeks after Christmas.
Auntie Bush
Oct 2013
#9
February 7th is reported to be the next debt ceiling deadline in this Senate deal. nt
Are_grits_groceries
Oct 2013
#16
"such a difficult task trying to control that bunch of hillbillies" - lol
Divine Discontent
Oct 2013
#73
sort of. Boehner gave Reid yesterday a document allowing him to skip one of the proceudres, so Cruz
robinlynne
Oct 2013
#33
which is not a real limit. There is enouhg moeny to pay all of our bills through beginning of Novemb
robinlynne
Oct 2013
#46
an ex sec of the treasury on the news hour last night or the night before said it doesn't really hap
robinlynne
Oct 2013
#69
Bring in the Battleship Missouri. This is unconditional surrender. We accept. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#13
USA can fight Terroism all around the world but cant fight terroist in your own house. NT
bonniebgood
Oct 2013
#21
So this 16 day long Tea Bagging Opera was basically to ensure those who still had doubts
Snake Plissken
Oct 2013
#25
Opening the House up to a vote was the only was this was ever going to happen
BainsBane
Oct 2013
#60