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In reply to the discussion: Obama stood more firmly than he ever has, showing balls of steel [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)93. Bullshit. We were scammed again by corporatists in both parties.
Let's not forget what really happens as a result of this deal. And let's not forget how we got here.
Let's remember this critical point made by DUer, cui bono:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023864395
But what is in the bill being passed is a budget with sequestration. A bill with less spending than Ryan's budget.
And let's repeat a post by leveymg that also explains what is really going on here:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3839411
67. It's because this lunacy is all a quite rational way to propel the Center-Right Austerity agenda.
That's precisely why I don't believe this BS about 40 Teahadis being responsible for the "crisis."
A partial shutdown suits the deficit hawks in both parties just fine, since it's been adjusted so it doesn't actually impact payrolls in the military and Intelligence agencies. This is simply austerity and cuts to social programs without anyone having to actually vote for it, and that's making the Center-Right smile.
Of course, they won't allow actual default of the debt - the "threat" of that just another psychological device to make this seem like a real crisis. It's not - it's simply austerity by default.
It has caused and will cause more pain to the 99 percent, and it never should have gone this far. The faux fiscal "crisis" should have been utterly rejected by a Democratic President TWO YEARS ago. Let's remember how we got started down this road of sequestrations and shutdowns in the first place. Republicans should have been slapped down hard then. Instead, the axe of sequestration was embraced by Democrats, and we got soaring speeches about eating our peas. None of this should have happened at all. It was orchestrated by corporatists in both parties, and now we have perpetual rule by shock doctrine. This is not a win, except for corporate thieves in both parties.
Every single deal, every single orchestrated crisis, every single shock doctrine scam moves us further into corporate slavery. We are being played by both corporate parties, over and over again.
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Obama stood more firmly than he ever has, showing balls of steel [View all]
bluestateguy
Oct 2013
OP
Agreed. The difference as I see it, Obama was willing to risk his own legacy for the future to
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#12
Thanks..and I'm sure I'm not the only Democrat who was holding their breath for awhile. I give
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#103
He just kicked back and let the America watch the baggers fight over the gun to shoot their toes off
Snake Plissken
Oct 2013
#21
Well that's because they are internal to the body and won't swing into each other
whopis01
Oct 2013
#114
You used it as a perjorative in the context of discussing offensive patriarchal language.
NuclearDem
Oct 2013
#79
why was what they did "pointing out" and yet what pretzel warrior did was "screaming"?
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#94
Exactly. I definitely remember it being used un-ironically when I was in college in the 80s.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#87
My nose wasn't bent. I wasn't 'aghast'. And if you can't wrap your brain around the explaination
PeaceNikki
Oct 2013
#111
No. No "balls" were involved in this deal. You can take your big "manly" balls and shove them.
PeaceNikki
Oct 2013
#137
In his first term Obama saved America from the 2nd Great Depression and killed Bin Laden.
aaaaaa5a
Oct 2013
#34
President Obama is the same man he's always been. Perceptions are what have changed.
IrishAyes
Oct 2013
#40
May BHO stand just as firmly on ever issue until January 20, 2016, and put back on the table
indepat
Oct 2013
#51
You should probably know the difference between a budget and a continuing resolution before
jeff47
Oct 2013
#105
He is not going to run again he has nothing to lose and everything to gain as seen.
4bucksagallon
Oct 2013
#133