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Showing Original Post only (View all)Scammed again by corporatists in both parties. [View all]
No, it's not a win. Let's not forget what really happens as a result of this deal. And let's not forget how we got here.
Let's remember this critical point made by DUer, cui bono:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023864395
But what is in the bill being passed is a budget with sequestration. A bill with less spending than Ryan's budget.
And let's repeat a post by leveymg that also explains what is really going on here:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3839411
67. It's because this lunacy is all a quite rational way to propel the Center-Right Austerity agenda.
That's precisely why I don't believe this BS about 40 Teahadis being responsible for the "crisis."
A partial shutdown suits the deficit hawks in both parties just fine, since it's been adjusted so it doesn't actually impact payrolls in the military and Intelligence agencies. This is simply austerity and cuts to social programs without anyone having to actually vote for it, and that's making the Center-Right smile.
Of course, they won't allow actual default of the debt - the "threat" of that just another psychological device to make this seem like a real crisis. It's not - it's simply austerity by default.
It has caused and will cause more pain to the 99 percent, and it never should have gone this far. The faux fiscal "crisis" should have been utterly rejected by a Democratic President TWO YEARS ago. Let's remember how we got started down this road of sequestrations and shutdowns in the first place. Republicans should have been slapped down hard then. Instead, the axe of sequestration was embraced by Democrats, and we got soaring speeches about eating our peas.
Now we have perpetual rule by crisis, repeated shock doctrine. Over and over again, options are deliberately narrowed until two shit sandwiches are placed before us, and we are taught to cry victory at receiving the slightly less shitty and painful option. Every outcome hurts the 99 percent and enriches the one percent a little bit more.http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023864395
But what is in the bill being passed is a budget with sequestration. A bill with less spending than Ryan's budget.
This is not a win, except for corporate thieves in both parties.
Every single deal, every single orchestrated crisis, every single shock doctrine scam moves us further into corporate slavery. We are being played by both corporate parties, over and over again.
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What shit gets old? Supporting Democratic Policies NEVER gets old for Democrats. So what are you
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#136
You mean the SS cuts that aren't going to happen, just like the last 10 times they've been
JoePhilly
Oct 2013
#125
So you don't support SS cuts, you don't support the Chained CPI. Good, then we are in agreement and
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#139
Correct, I do not support the SS cuts that are also not happening ... no matter how much
JoePhilly
Oct 2013
#145
"The link merely states that Ryan et al wanted even more damage in the form of entitlement cuts."
ProSense
Oct 2013
#20
There argument can be summed up as: Democrats good, Republicans bad. It makes life so much
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#57
If you are not making an equivalence then you are using the wrong metaphor.
D23MIURG23
Oct 2013
#102
Exactly, and again, to play the REAL game you need to keep your eyes on the ball
nolabels
Oct 2013
#116
Had thought woo me with science's OP was spot on. Thanks for clarifying that we are not
indepat
Oct 2013
#30
Or that Mitt Romney's multi-million dollar annual income is still taxed playing like it were
indepat
Oct 2013
#77
But, but being run from the right is ok if it is a Democrat. You see the word means everything.
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#64
My maternal grand-father had been an early campaign manager for Al Gore, Sr. and this native
indepat
Oct 2013
#71
Of course there is a difference. THat's not the point. Of course what we got was better than
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#103
The OP is absolutely CORRECT. And the proof will very soon become evident to those who have so far
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#122
You are too late. It has already begun. But with the same pressure Liberals applied re the Summers
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#133
Why do you say 'so clearly he must be part of the secret plan to kill Social Security'?? Ryan is on
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#150
How dishonest to misrepresent the OP. I guess you are unable to argue against what he actually
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#104
The admins like to keep a few of the more intelligent and perceptive DUers around
Zorra
Oct 2013
#35
You didn't read the OP then?? I suggest you do so. It is an excellent OP especially for those who
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#134
You should probably know the difference between a Continuing Resolution and a budget
jeff47
Oct 2013
#16
agreed but there are few leading dems interested or capable of doing so. this is a great chance to
msongs
Oct 2013
#36
K&R "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#21
Both ends of the political spectrum has them. This is one of ours. nt
BluegrassStateBlues
Oct 2013
#28
It's a lot more of a win than the usual suspect naysayers predicted. Quite a win actually.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#56
Humiliating Republicans is a means to an end, to majorities to roll back Republican legislation. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#78
Interesting to see some of the numbers that go UP...Besides the stock market...
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#58
We know who the Ted Cruz types are on the Right. Please name those types on the Left you appear to
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#135
the ones who believe everything they hear/read from Russia Today for starters nt
geek tragedy
Oct 2013
#142
Are you referring to the 'left' by any chance? I'm asking because there is an excellent OP
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#148
Thank you for the details. Over what time frame (reversed before enacted)? Staggering, nonetheless.
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2013
#117
Wow! The people with me on ignore will never see that I agree with them!
FredStembottom
Oct 2013
#141