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Comrade Grumpy

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48. If you don't mind my asking, where do you work?

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 03:03 PM

Mar 2012

Government job, can't have a union, subject to random suspicionless drug testing. Only certain strictly delimited government employees are subject to drug testing. Are you one of those?

The concerns I have about suspicionless drug testing are not limited to cost effectiveness. I find the presumption of guilt disturbing ("prove you're clean by peeing in this cup&quot and the actual procedure itself degrading and humiliating.

And you have actually paraphrased the title of the OP in your response. Dang.

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"I have to get drug tested for my job, so why shouldn't people on welfare be tested, too?" [View all] Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 OP

......... Sherman A1 Mar 2012 #1

Because it's a vast waste of money mainer Mar 2012 #2

There is that, too. But faux populist poor-bashing is good for stirring up the base. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #5

Actually in Florida welfare recipients were found LESS likely to test positive csziggy Mar 2012 #11

isn't the governor of florida making money off of his policy newspeak Mar 2012 #36

So is his medical company, Solantic. nt tsuki Mar 2012 #43

Thanks - I couldn't remember if was the Gov or his buddies csziggy Mar 2012 #45

Well if you hadn't given up your right to bargain.... Bennyboy Mar 2012 #3

Florida tried this with welfare recipients titaniumsalute Mar 2012 #4

I am drug tested for my occupation. mick063 Mar 2012 #6

mick...I am also "random" drug tested because I work in public transportation. PearliePoo2 Mar 2012 #21

The problem is that for most non-alcohol drug testing..... PavePusher Mar 2012 #31

My answer is: Take a look at Kestrel's question in post 7. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #47

If you don't mind my asking, where do you work? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #48

Active Duty U.S. Air Force. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #49

What physical danger would testing welfare recipients protect the public from, kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #7

I don't like that "let's test elected officials, too" argument. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #12

Right 2pooped2pop Mar 2012 #18

Freedom B Calm Mar 2012 #29

Unemployment comp is not welfare! B Calm Mar 2012 #32

My mother thought along the same lines. unapatriciated Mar 2012 #34

What really kills me are the drug testing for unemployment benefit bills. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #8

I think the "logic" goes like this The Genealogist Mar 2012 #9

Because you are going to give them the money ANYWAY. aquart Mar 2012 #10

The Republicans only want to spend the money on police and prisons csziggy Mar 2012 #17

How about this: Turbineguy Mar 2012 #13

Our Governor, senators, Representatives must be tested too rustydog Mar 2012 #14

Except that would be unconstitutional. But... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #20

Iam surprised at the hypocritical "concern" about drug use rustydog Mar 2012 #30

Because... Spanky32 Mar 2012 #15

Am I the only one that feels disconnected every time someone says this left is right Mar 2012 #22

Cuz you can change your job. You can't change your welfare. ClassWarrior Mar 2012 #16

Yeah, go after the little people. Let the real welfare addicts off the hook i.e. Big Oil, Wall St, FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #19

And if they have drugs in their system, then what? Sparkly Mar 2012 #23

What does (did) the Florida do to them if positive Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #46

So what would it cost B Calm Mar 2012 #24

Ok That is fine by me as long as the pompous A$$'s demanding it are tested regularly also! sce56 Mar 2012 #25

Screw it, test everybody. Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #26

If the aim is to save money on "welfare", it might make better sense to take the money which would mother earth Mar 2012 #27

What happen to Probable Cause? B Calm Mar 2012 #28

A lot of people on welfare have to take the bus. Why shouldn't you have to take the bus also? yellowcanine Mar 2012 #33

I wonder if medical labs doing the testing lobbied for this mainer Mar 2012 #35

most likely Johonny Mar 2012 #38

My husband is drug-tested regularly and we're okay with that... cynatnite Mar 2012 #37

In order to get welfare you have to be broke and Drugs cost money Viva Mar 2012 #39

Just my opinion ckimmy57 Mar 2012 #40

the premise really is the elephant in the room iverglas Mar 2012 #41

I've been volunteering to get drug tested every week for onethatcares Mar 2012 #42

That sort of thinking *seems* reasonable Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #44

Do people even know who is on welfare??? KatyMan Mar 2012 #50

That's exactly the mentality Indiana Mar 2012 #51