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NRaleighLiberal

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34. "What do I do" is so different from "which is the way to go"
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oct 2013

because it picks up the inconsistencies of each of our choices - so there is no one size fits all way to go that works for everyone - this is what makes it messy!

It is also a startlingly open and vulnerable thing, to admit to which particular "rules" we do or don't break - my friends and I have had very interesting discussions around all of this - and each of us over the years spot the inconsistencies in each of our many arguments, positions or life choices!

I am like you, I guess - I am one of those "we are all born with a clean slate and the world is full of wonders and we should each maximize our potential for both its enjoyment and longevity" types, I suppose - tend to think in terms of "health first"....yet I will be the first to admit that the speed limit on most roads is too low....so there you go!

Now I need to retrieve my brain from these fascinating deep thought topics and go get something done!

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It's easy to talk a big "personal responsibility" game and "teach you kids to not be dumb" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #1
This person is a good guy who is former Navy. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #7
It is a really tricky topic that clearly crosses political camps - and it is really complex. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #2
Your post is *exactly* what I was hoping for when I started the thread! IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #9
"What do I do" is so different from "which is the way to go" NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #34
For what it's worth, Reagan signed a bill requiring motorcycle helmets Blue Meany Oct 2013 #3
This was brought up by both of us, and I made a comment about "young organ donors." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #10
That's why medics call them "donorcycles". nt Bigmack Oct 2013 #41
Drug/Alcohol test all of Congress. For our safety n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #4
Now *this* I could definitely get behind. Brigid Oct 2013 #37
Also against: actual nannies Sanddog42 Oct 2013 #5
I was talking about the "wider bars on cribs" that had resulted in baby deaths. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #19
I am against laws that protect me from myself.. Bandit Oct 2013 #6
How about stupid things you do that affect other people? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #14
I have no problem with that reasoning as I have no problem with robbery being illegal Bandit Oct 2013 #18
I knew someone who was adamantly opposed to mandatory helmet laws. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #8
I am so sorry. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #12
Thank you. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #36
Well, to me it's kind of like the idiots who let their dogs ride in the back of their trucks in Tx. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #11
"The freedom to believe the laws of physics do not apply to you." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #16
The rights of the community trump individual rights TBF Oct 2013 #13
Is the community better off with a "clean-of-the-stupid gene pool"? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #15
The 'Harm Policy' paradox wtbymark Oct 2013 #17
Is it "paternalistic" (as in "I am in charge!") or "maternal" (as in "please be safe!")? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #23
the notion that stupid people only harm themselves is fallacious 0rganism Oct 2013 #20
Agreed. And I especially like this line in your post -- IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #30
I think the basic philosophy is: people should be free to do anything that doesn't impact others. Make7 Oct 2013 #21
Realistically, pricing like that would encourage people to lie. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #29
I was suggesting it more as a debate point than an actual workable solution. Make7 Oct 2013 #35
I agree - but it is a slippery slope - smoking impacts others directly (via smoke) NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #32
I think smokers do pay more for health and life insurance already. Make7 Oct 2013 #38
I saw a young guy and a young woman on a MineralMan Oct 2013 #22
I would have been completely freaking out. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #24
I'm afraid that I was focused on my driving. MineralMan Oct 2013 #26
I wouldn't have been trying to warn them - IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #27
I kind of run through a checklist with these issues Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #25
This is really excellent. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #28
Thanks! Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #31
I find the "people should be free to do things that don't impact others" to LittleBlue Oct 2013 #33
A young lady in town was wearing a helmet and only riding a bike... Frustratedlady Oct 2013 #39
In one way or another we all end up paying when someone's failure to wear tblue37 Oct 2013 #40
With motorcycle helmets specifically lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #42
I'm all for it, if they protect people and property Southside Oct 2013 #43
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