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Brigid

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37. Now *this* I could definitely get behind.

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:28 PM

Oct 2013

There is one of those little tabloid papers around here -- every town probably has them -- advertising crappy jobs like temporary warehouse work, cab driving, etc., plus those for-profit schools that offer to make you a practical nurse or a pharmacy tech in a few months. But I digress. Anyway, all of those crappy jobs seem to have one thing in common: they require drug testing. Now, if some poor schmuck doing heavy lifting at the local Amazon fulfillment center has to take a drug test, why not the ones in DC? After all, if the schmuck at Amazon is smoking a little weed on his breaks, the worst that is likely to happen is that some customer gets a wrong order. Those clowns in DC just cost the US economy $24 billion.

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Interesting discussion with a co-worker about "Nanny State" policies. [View all] IdaBriggs Oct 2013 OP

It's easy to talk a big "personal responsibility" game and "teach you kids to not be dumb" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #1

This person is a good guy who is former Navy. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #7

It is a really tricky topic that clearly crosses political camps - and it is really complex. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #2

Your post is *exactly* what I was hoping for when I started the thread! IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #9

"What do I do" is so different from "which is the way to go" NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #34

For what it's worth, Reagan signed a bill requiring motorcycle helmets Blue Meany Oct 2013 #3

This was brought up by both of us, and I made a comment about "young organ donors." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #10

That's why medics call them "donorcycles". nt Bigmack Oct 2013 #41

Drug/Alcohol test all of Congress. For our safety n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #4

Now *this* I could definitely get behind. Brigid Oct 2013 #37

Also against: actual nannies Sanddog42 Oct 2013 #5

I was talking about the "wider bars on cribs" that had resulted in baby deaths. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #19

I am against laws that protect me from myself.. Bandit Oct 2013 #6

How about stupid things you do that affect other people? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #14

I have no problem with that reasoning as I have no problem with robbery being illegal Bandit Oct 2013 #18

I knew someone who was adamantly opposed to mandatory helmet laws. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #8

I am so sorry. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #12

Thank you. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #36

Well, to me it's kind of like the idiots who let their dogs ride in the back of their trucks in Tx. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #11

"The freedom to believe the laws of physics do not apply to you." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #16

The rights of the community trump individual rights TBF Oct 2013 #13

Is the community better off with a "clean-of-the-stupid gene pool"? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #15

The 'Harm Policy' paradox wtbymark Oct 2013 #17

Is it "paternalistic" (as in "I am in charge!") or "maternal" (as in "please be safe!")? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #23

the notion that stupid people only harm themselves is fallacious 0rganism Oct 2013 #20

Agreed. And I especially like this line in your post -- IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #30

I think the basic philosophy is: people should be free to do anything that doesn't impact others. Make7 Oct 2013 #21

Realistically, pricing like that would encourage people to lie. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #29

I was suggesting it more as a debate point than an actual workable solution. Make7 Oct 2013 #35

I agree - but it is a slippery slope - smoking impacts others directly (via smoke) NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #32

I think smokers do pay more for health and life insurance already. Make7 Oct 2013 #38

I saw a young guy and a young woman on a MineralMan Oct 2013 #22

I would have been completely freaking out. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #24

I'm afraid that I was focused on my driving. MineralMan Oct 2013 #26

I wouldn't have been trying to warn them - IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #27

I kind of run through a checklist with these issues Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #25

This is really excellent. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #28

Thanks! Beearewhyain Oct 2013 #31

I find the "people should be free to do things that don't impact others" to LittleBlue Oct 2013 #33

A young lady in town was wearing a helmet and only riding a bike... Frustratedlady Oct 2013 #39

In one way or another we all end up paying when someone's failure to wear tblue37 Oct 2013 #40

With motorcycle helmets specifically lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #42

I'm all for it, if they protect people and property Southside Oct 2013 #43