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KoKo

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49. Oh MY... Harold Ickes fought like heck to have Hillary President.

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:26 PM

Oct 2013

He was so upset about one of the Caucuses or something that he and David Price (NC Rep) and others called some kind of hearing to try to do something with the Delegate Count for Convention.

Isn't Ickes is one of the Grand PooBah's whose family goes back to the Revolution and one who served with Roosevelt was it? I remember reading something about him and his family and how powerful they were but, I can't remember all the details. I guess I should Wiki.

I guess we get Clintons 3. In way it's inevitable because Dem Party hasn't really groomed or left room for anyone new to get the experience and funding to move up the ranks and be anointed with the Gold Star. I wondered why that was but the Obama election did seem to suck all the air out because he was so overwhelmingly the new hope for us all after the Bush years.

Could be some surprises if things keep going the way they are with the Austerity Program, though. And the other stuff that's not focused on as much as it should be but bubbling like NSA Spying, Drone Strikes, TPP and the other less know Free Trade Agreements already being signed like the EuroDeal (forget the acronym), and Global Climate Change, Fracking...

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Hillary Clinton, Welcome to the White House [View all] brooklynite Oct 2013 OP

I'll vote for her in the General Election, assuming she wins primary.... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #13

Sadly, we've seen that a fresh Senator does not know how to handle Congress question everything Oct 2013 #27

He got his signature program passed despite the fact that many purple/red state Democratic stevenleser Oct 2013 #30

What a bunch of hooey Egnever Oct 2013 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #34

I don't see any job that is appropriate training for President. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #52

Oh any excuse to get the whines in about Cha Oct 2013 #61

Dealing with multiple demands and budgets question everything Oct 2013 #65

No President ever bats a thosuand.... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #66

What's sad is.. you don't know what all has been Accomplished Cha Oct 2013 #60

and Hillary's experience DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #62

Like 2008, I will not be bashing any top tier Democratic candidate. onehandle Oct 2013 #2

I'm not convinced LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #37

I think she's running on name recognition right now. hedgehog Oct 2013 #3

What the hell else do you run on, if not name recognition? juajen Oct 2013 #31

I can say WITHOUT CONTRADICTION that Sherrod will not be running either brooklynite Oct 2013 #48

If they're so 'savvy,' how'd they lose to Obama? leftstreet Oct 2013 #4

She had over 18,000,000 votes. juajen Oct 2013 #36

wtf? 'a charismatic African American candidate' leftstreet Oct 2013 #40

+1 bunnies Oct 2013 #51

Two things: AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #46

you are stepping on and over a line with that Charismatic THING. Whisp Oct 2013 #54

Many people who "would have voted for her" couldn't resist voting for someone else? winter is coming Oct 2013 #56

I won't vote for center-right LittleBlue Oct 2013 #5

If you won't vote democratic you don't belong here. denbot Oct 2013 #8

I would prefer to wait for the primary. HappyMe Oct 2013 #10

I wasn't speaking of Hillary, just democratic. denbot Oct 2013 #23

I'm kind of torn with this. HappyMe Oct 2013 #26

*Today* Virginia purged around 40,000 voters, and I doubt they were republican voters. denbot Oct 2013 #29

I can't do a damn thing about Virginia. HappyMe Oct 2013 #35

I NEVER said support Hillary, just democrats. denbot Oct 2013 #38

Agree with everything you've said. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #43

If you won't vote democratic you don't belong here. reddread Oct 2013 #64

I'll support Warren LittleBlue Oct 2013 #12

Then it will be the same as if you voted republican. denbot Oct 2013 #14

Nah LittleBlue Oct 2013 #16

Unless of course, one sincerely believes that the proposed solution is little more than the problem LanternWaste Oct 2013 #18

People who say if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem... Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #19

Support Hillary or else!!!11 HappyMe Oct 2013 #20

No kidding LittleBlue Oct 2013 #24

Nominee? HappyMe Oct 2013 #28

that coronation went swimmingly in 2008 frylock Oct 2013 #53

Well, we don't have a Progressive wing of our party. juajen Oct 2013 #39

+1 BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #44

where do you think all those disillusioned conservatives will go? frylock Oct 2013 #50

These folks would disagree stevenleser Oct 2013 #59

Shine that badge, Cartman. n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #17

At the time, exit polls suggested that the 18% that Perot got... MarianJack Oct 2013 #6

GHWB had three terms in a row, and two more in this century reddread Oct 2013 #7

I agree with you, but... MarianJack Oct 2013 #9

oh yeah, definitely was a sign of hope for electoral integrity reddread Oct 2013 #15

Your points are right, but... MarianJack Oct 2013 #41

you cant really judge Perot's take of the vote reddread Oct 2013 #47

I sure can judge Perot's take of the vote. MarianJack Oct 2013 #57

beware the slumbering giant n/t reddread Oct 2013 #58

FWIW - I think we can discuss candidates we'd prefer without bashing the hedgehog Oct 2013 #11

No more 3rd Way, corporatist, war mongers. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #63

I would prefer a progressive, non-corporatist alternative. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #22

Did I miss the primary election? AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #25

Folks "jumping the gun" thinking DU Rules to support Candidate are now enforced... KoKo Oct 2013 #33

Harold Ickes got in on the ground floor of PrioritiesUSA. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #42

Oh MY... Harold Ickes fought like heck to have Hillary President. KoKo Oct 2013 #49

People that are looking for ideologically pure candidates are damn fools. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #45

she'll have to work for it like everyone before her Whisp Oct 2013 #55