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The president said it again: Our problem is with Social Security and Medicare. [View all] jsr Oct 2013 OP

So, it's obvious that we still have some major work to do here. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #1

He's right about the projected expenditures. randome Oct 2013 #4

Expenditures from rich people raiding it? leftstreet Oct 2013 #12

The 'raiding' is only on paper but you're right, it should never be used for ANYTHING else. randome Oct 2013 #15

You have to buy your own insurance. It's not Medicare leftstreet Oct 2013 #18

But the President was talking about SS and Medicare. randome Oct 2013 #23

Yes. You brought up private insurance leftstreet Oct 2013 #25

I meant 'health insurance' as in Medicare, not ACA. randome Oct 2013 #28

Medicare is not self-funded and never was. bornskeptic Oct 2013 #45

We Medicare recipients are paying for it. RebelOne Oct 2013 #53

Both programs are running a cash flow deficit. Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #101

No he is not. SS has enough revenue to cover its obligations, thanks to the American Working Class sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #34

Yeah, what Sabrina said. Could not agree more. JEB Oct 2013 #54

He doesn't know what he is talking about, only repeating what his puppetmaster Peter J. Peterson duffyduff Oct 2013 #97

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #117

He has never supported raising the cap. Not once! AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #129

Well, he should. randome Oct 2013 #130

No he shouldn't. That would be a betrayal of the rich and the trickle-down theory. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #133

Betray away! randome Oct 2013 #135

Pssst, not everything is about 'political capital'. In fact to a vast majority sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #140

Link. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #2

A transcript should be available shortly. jsr Oct 2013 #8

Thank you. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #14

Here is a link to what he just said: jsr Oct 2013 #24

Great, it was expected. So here's the obligation they have around 'things' like Medicare and SS'. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #39

Who knows what he means it changes..but, Recommend. The fix KoKo Oct 2013 #80

Excellent post. I agree 100%. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #116

For sure there are challenges with long-term obligations regarding medicare and ss. DCBob Oct 2013 #42

Great... haikugal Oct 2013 #3

+infinity newfie11 Oct 2013 #17

+ another infinity Scuba Oct 2013 #20

and nothing about the 1% and corporate tax dodgers shortchanging the country ... Myrina Oct 2013 #30

It's never mentioned. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #118

As Denis Leary would say, Two Words: LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #5

He said that because we need to insure that these programs get stronger awake Oct 2013 #6

SS is one of the strongest Fiscal programs we have right now. All it needs to ensure it remains sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #41

Grrrrr progressoid Oct 2013 #7

Well if you are planning on giving away more jobs then the tax revenue will continue to drop. L0oniX Oct 2013 #9

It's an excellent speech, meant to unite. Getting pissed defeats the point. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #10

Thats right he is being the President of all of america not just us here awake Oct 2013 #11

Yep. This OP is divisive and part of the problem. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #26

there is good reason to be concerned. magical thyme Oct 2013 #27

+1 GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #103

+2 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #119

+3 Nailed it! n/t fredamae Oct 2013 #128

+4 nt stillwaiting Oct 2013 #131

Not reallly...He chastised "extremists in both parties"....Dissed Bloggers and Media. KoKo Oct 2013 #60

+1 GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #104

Very well said, KoKo. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #120

Rather, pissing off your audience misses the point. I suppose now we're going to Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #88

I cannot stand this constant attack from the Tea Party AND from WITHIN, aka, the neo-liberals merbex Oct 2013 #13

I don't understand your ire. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #38

Good for you - I'm tired of the obfuscation merbex Oct 2013 #44

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I agree...why wouldn't a Democratic President stand with the Dems who Elected Him! KoKo Oct 2013 #83

Neoliberalism is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL duffyduff Oct 2013 #99

Raise the damn cap! Enough said! Nt newfie11 Oct 2013 #16

Eliminate the damn cap. Problem solved! SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #21

Medicare is the much bigger problem. dkf Oct 2013 #22

Nah. PETRUS Oct 2013 #64

Isn't that the truth! dkf Oct 2013 #70

No politician wants to piss off the big donors. PETRUS Oct 2013 #71

We haven't begun to educate people on this subject. dkf Oct 2013 #74

And we shouldn't enable their cowardice. closeupready Oct 2013 #81

plus one. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #77

In so far as universal healthcare remains a goal... Chan790 Oct 2013 #85

Translation..... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #19

And they don't want to have to pay back the trillions they borrowed from the SS Fund. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #43

Yep, that too. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #51

Only if you're trying to sensationalize what he said frazzled Oct 2013 #29

What nonsense. We don't need 'exemptions'. Every person who paid into the fund did so the same way sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #46

Sorry that you didn't fully comprehend the issues here frazzled Oct 2013 #52

As a Democrat I assure you I have educated myself fully on this issue, a cornerstone of Democratic sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #56

The President says, "We have to eat our peas." Enthusiast Oct 2013 #123

Sabrina has it right hardcover Oct 2013 #110

Exactly, thank you!! sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #111

Center for American Progress and Center for Budget and Policy Priorities are linked pottedplant Oct 2013 #63

No, Slate called them liberal, as does every other arbiter of such things frazzled Oct 2013 #72

ROFLMFAO n/t Oilwellian Oct 2013 #102

The "arbiters of such things" are allied with Pete Peterson. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #124

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #108

I'll take Chained-CPI along with reduced Medicare cost sharing, programs that help the young, etc. Hoyt Oct 2013 #84

I can't believe you believe this. Cleita Oct 2013 #86

Many of us are though. And 15 years or so from now, if economy does not improve, Hoyt Oct 2013 #90

So you think that doing it on the backs of the poorest Cleita Oct 2013 #91

Did I say that? Did I not say earlier "as long as there are protection . . . . ."? Hoyt Oct 2013 #92

Most of those poor people are on SSDI and other govt programs that Cleita Oct 2013 #93

Didn't say a thing about getting rid of anything, or even reducing anything. Hoyt Oct 2013 #96

Liberal think tanks? Enthusiast Oct 2013 #122

NO, our "problem" is with MILITARY EXPENDITURES!! grasswire Oct 2013 #31

I agree, it's really getting out of hand. B Calm Oct 2013 #40

So true! Now there's the real "third rail," eh? GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #105

Simple "fix" of the long term problem with Social Security awake Oct 2013 #32

Simple "fix" of the long term problem with Medicare awake Oct 2013 #33

Thank you - TBF Oct 2013 #36

It is not too late to add the option of buying into Medicare awake Oct 2013 #67

He's been saying it since the first state of the union address - TBF Oct 2013 #35

I listened to the speech. What you are implying is a distortion of MineralMan Oct 2013 #37

They let the President take his victory quarter lap... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #48

It's funny, too. Having listened to the President's remarks, MineralMan Oct 2013 #50

Paul Ryan says the same thing - the Republicans want to strengthen these programs Samantha Oct 2013 #87

Both the President and Nancy Pelosi have suggested Chained CPI as a mechanism for Enthusiast Oct 2013 #125

It's going to happen. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #134

If it happens before the 2014 election it will Enthusiast Oct 2013 #136

He's like a prize fighter that holds a palooka up in a clinch so that the round won't end. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #138

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2013 #66

Math is math. The government OWES Social Security a lot of money. phleshdef Oct 2013 #47

The other alternative... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #49

+1. Stop outsourcing our manufacturing jobs as with the proposed TPP. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #126

Maybe he has too many Republican advisors. Too many in his cabinet and elsewhere. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #137

The federal government can't go broke. Obama is repeating Cato Institute, Peterson lies duffyduff Oct 2013 #100

Our "problem" is with the private health insurance industry telling us what to do. Leopolds Ghost Oct 2013 #55

I thought about you whenI came across this: NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #142

This is it!!! Here it comes!!! Any second!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #57

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Yes, the govt needs to put back the 2.4 trillion Rex Oct 2013 #59

Yes they do need to put it back. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Oct 2013 #62

The "problem" is that the DC legislators have stolen the money in those funds SoCalDem Oct 2013 #65

This is why we can't have nice things. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #68

Social Security has a problem pnwmom Oct 2013 #69

Stop paying FICA taxes and see what a big problem it is. kentuck Oct 2013 #73

Here's an idea - eliminate the cap on SS tax, and put a bit more of FICA towards Medicare muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #75

time to open the Overton window to the left again: harm SSI and Medicare and I support impeachment NuttyFluffers Oct 2013 #76

psst. Mr. President. over here! Deep13 Oct 2013 #78

"Our"? Um no, Your. Most people don't have a problem with it. closeupready Oct 2013 #82

Here's what the President said: ProSense Oct 2013 #89

If he goes for Chained CPI I will support privitization or repeal Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #94

Shock Doctrine/ Starve the Beast is action. morningfog Oct 2013 #95

Yep. And it's both political parties responsible for this duffyduff Oct 2013 #98

Fix SS and Medicare? bkkyosemite Oct 2013 #106

How can our long-term obligations to SS be an issue... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #107

We will have to cash the trust fund in over the next two decades madville Oct 2013 #113

There is a problem, here is the link madville Oct 2013 #112

Good post. Worse, those projections are based on rosier economic projections Hoyt Oct 2013 #114

Facts mean nothing to some of those on this thread. randome Oct 2013 #121

You seem to think depletion of the trust fund will be a disaster. Lasher Oct 2013 #141

Obama's been a deficit hawk from day one. joshcryer Oct 2013 #115

and our problem with SS and Medicare IS . . . annabanana Oct 2013 #127

I wouldn't want to try to repeat that while intoxicated, but you're absolutely right. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #132

We have to give lying criminal repukes credibility to continue the left/right paradigm fraud Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #139