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Showing Original Post only (View all)Inside the Fox News lie machine: Salon contributor Eric Stern fact-checks Sean Hannity on Obamacare [View all]
Great article. Stern fact-checked Hannity by personally contacting three couples Hannity claimed had been harmed by Obamacare, and finding out how baseless those claims were.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fox_news_lie_machine_i_fact_checked_sean_hannity_on_obamacare/
First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C. He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they cant grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.
Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce? Well, he said, I havent been forced to do so, its just that Ive chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs. What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said hed call me back. He never did.
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Next I called Allison Denijs. Shed told Hannity that she pays over $13,000 a year in premiums. Like the other guests, she said she had recently gotten a letter from Blue Cross saying that her policy was being terminated and a new, ACA-compliant policy would take its place. She says this shows that Obama lied when he promised Americans that we could keep our existing policies.
Allisons husband left his job a few years ago, one with benefits at a big company, to start his own business. Since then theyve been buying insurance on the open market, and are now paying around $1,100 a month for a policy with a $2,500 deductible per family member, with hefty annual premium hikes. One of their two children is not covered under the policy. She has a preexisting condition that would require purchasing additional coverage for $800 a month, which would bring the familys grand total to $19,000 a year.
I asked Allison if shed shopped on the exchange, to see what a plan might cost under the new law. She said she hadnt done so because shed heard the website was not working. Would she try it out when its up and running? Perhaps, she said. She told me she has long opposed Obamacare, and that the president should have focused on tort reform as a solution to bringing down the price of healthcare.
I tried an experiment and shopped on the exchange for Allison and Kurt. Assuming they dont smoke and have a household income too high to be eligible for subsidies, I found that they would be able to get a plan for around $7,600, which would include coverage for their uninsured daughter. This would be about a 60 percent reduction from what they would have to pay on the pre-Obamacare market.
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Finally, I called Robbie and Tina Robison from Franklin, Tenn. Robbie is self-employed as a Christian youth motivational speaker. (You can see his work here.) On Hannity, the couple said that they, too, were recently notified that their Blue Cross policy would be expiring for lack of ACA compliance. They told Hannity that the replacement plans Blue Cross was offering would come with a rate increase of 50 percent or even 75 percent, and that the new offerings would contain all sorts of benefits they dont need, like maternity care, pediatric care, prenatal care and so forth. Their kids are grown and moved out, so why should they be forced to pay extra for a health plan with superfluous features?
When I spoke to Robbie, he said he and Tina have been paying a little over $800 a month for their plan, about $10,000 a year. And the ACA-compliant policy will cost 50-75 percent more? They said this information was related to them by their insurance agent.
Had they shopped on the exchange yet, I asked? No, Tina said, nor would they. They oppose Obamacare and want nothing to do with it. Fair enough, but they should know that I found a plan for them for, at most, $3,700 a year, a 63 percent less than their current bill. It might cover things that they dont need, but so does every insurance policy.
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highplainsdem
Oct 2013
OP
Great article! I hope he tells the two families what he found on the exchanges, and then
Squinch
Oct 2013
#2
I don't know. Save them hundreds a month, and I think they'll sign. They won't admit
Squinch
Oct 2013
#16
How does FOX stay on the air! Seriously, the entire network should be an FCC violation. nt
aaaaaa5a
Oct 2013
#7
OK do you know the name of that law or regulation that used to be on the books
Maraya1969
Oct 2013
#42
They claim they are News/Entertainment.... kinda like the supermarket rags.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#46
the degree of conscious intentional lying that the lie machine does is breath taking
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2013
#11
They don't want to upset their unreal world view even if it costs them big bucks to maintain it. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#20
Purity of their ignorance. Ouch. It fits, but it's very sad when you think about it.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#47
Were I a betting man, I would give 20 to 1 odds that Robbie and Tina Robison were fervent
indepat
Oct 2013
#32
You know what is funny? Hannity couldn't find someone with more than 4 employees to lie on TV.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#48