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B2G

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50. You might not understand it, but

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:29 AM

Oct 2013

there is a significant segment of society that is unisured by choice. They are the 'young invicibles'...young workers who are healthy who just don't see the need for the expense of insurance at this point in their lives. A lot of them pay cash for doctor's visits. And this is the segment the ACA is counting on to help fund the program.

This segment currently has the option for low cost, low coverage plans. They don't anymore. If they weren't willing to pay then, what makes us think they will now for more expensive ones? Many of them will opt for the $95 annual tax.

I don't like it any better than you, but that's the unfortunate reality.

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Need a good response to this Freeper poster on the ACA [View all] NewJeffCT Oct 2013 OP

I believe this is true, unless his state opted-out of the Medicare expansion. Ian David Oct 2013 #1

thanks NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #7

You mean Medicaid expansion not Medicare. And if he makes so little he would have qualified PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #60

Awesome. n/t Ian David Oct 2013 #71

You're posting on Freepers? BellaKos Oct 2013 #2

No NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #4

reply that it's an opportunity for both sides to work together alc Oct 2013 #3

Who is "hurt" by the ACA? There are some who will pay more according to income. Squinch Oct 2013 #6

One could easily argue that it's "only a matter of time" before subsidies are decreased. DireStrike Oct 2013 #17

I am not trying to sell anyone anything. I am asking who is hurt. Squinch Oct 2013 #19

Are you arguing that because the fee might be waived, nobody will be hurt? DireStrike Oct 2013 #21

I am not arguing anything. I am asking who is hurt. Squinch Oct 2013 #22

You are attempting to use rhetorical devices in a one-on-one conversation DireStrike Oct 2013 #23

No, I'm not attempting to use anything. I am asking who is hurt by the ACA. Squinch Oct 2013 #26

It depends on your definition of "hurt" ... oldhippie Oct 2013 #59

I am also trying to find out who is hurt by the ACA> Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #36

This poster is assuming that there will be no penalties for anyone ever DireStrike Oct 2013 #42

Number 2 is the killer B2G Oct 2013 #44

The whole plan depends on people like me buying in to the system. DireStrike Oct 2013 #45

And that is the major problem here B2G Oct 2013 #46

What's bizarre to me is someone (apparently working) running around uninsured bitching.. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #47

You might not understand it, but B2G Oct 2013 #50

I understand it just fine. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #55

There's two reasons you're wrong jeff47 Oct 2013 #57

Can you please elaborate on what sort of care requires a deductible? DireStrike Oct 2013 #67

It's on Healthcare.gov jeff47 Oct 2013 #68

Thank you. DireStrike Oct 2013 #69

The question was, who is hurt by the ACA? DireStrike Oct 2013 #65

We cannot have this conversation on our side. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #56

I hear you, but I am a realist B2G Oct 2013 #58

It is appreciated. -nt- DireStrike Oct 2013 #70

I am Disadvantaged by the ACA stuckinodi Oct 2013 #37

But your status doesn't change. You are currently uninsured, and you will remain uninsured. Squinch Oct 2013 #38

It's not an "individual fine", it's a tax per Supreme Court solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #5

Sorry. I agree with him. LWolf Oct 2013 #8

THIS Heather MC Oct 2013 #10

Unfortunately, this is true for many. antiquie Oct 2013 #12

Yes. And, unfortunately, LWolf Oct 2013 #15

I am noticing an interesting trend, the only people who claim to have to pay more for ACA are Repubs Heather MC Oct 2013 #9

Upper middle class people antiquie Oct 2013 #11

But they Can Keep what they have Heather MC Oct 2013 #14

You are probably right. antiquie Oct 2013 #16

I have Tricare so I guess I don't need it but Heather MC Oct 2013 #20

Most dental insurance sucks NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #25

We cannot keep what we have. cilla4progress Oct 2013 #61

Well then they should keep the plan the have. ACA wasn't meant for the upper middle class Fla Dem Oct 2013 #29

We've been over this before B2G Oct 2013 #30

I think it is funny all these wacko birds who claim to hate Gov Heather MC Oct 2013 #35

Or simply closed cilla4progress Oct 2013 #62

Yes B2G Oct 2013 #63

I am speaking about California. YMMV. antiquie Oct 2013 #34

It's the family glitch... Barack_America Oct 2013 #27

That's what happens when you allow obstructionist to write the laws Heather MC Oct 2013 #41

Exactly! cilla4progress Oct 2013 #64

Simply get a job that had health insurance benefits! krispos42 Oct 2013 #13

and don't forget NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #18

You're being sarcastic? B2G Oct 2013 #31

yes NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #48

It's hard to tell sometimes B2G Oct 2013 #51

Reflecting back at them... krispos42 Oct 2013 #66

This ^^^^^^^ treestar Oct 2013 #40

Isn't there an exemption for being unable to afford insurance? ck4829 Oct 2013 #24

Yes, see response #1 NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #28

Has he even checked what his costs would be under ACA rurallib Oct 2013 #32

In the book "The Doorbell Rang" by Rex Stout... Savannahmann Oct 2013 #33

Not always NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #49

How about "I don't talk to dimwits who refuse to learn a thing"? Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #39

ask him blueknight Oct 2013 #43

people will only be fined if they CAN afford it (with subsidies) but refuse anyway. librechik Oct 2013 #52

There's a subsidy if you can't afford it. Those not getting a subsidy BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #53

It depends on his income whether he qualifies for the subsidy. It also depends on his income if he lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #54