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librechik

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52. people will only be fined if they CAN afford it (with subsidies) but refuse anyway.

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:33 AM

Oct 2013

That toothless yokel should be on Medicaid if he can't afford ACA. Probably is. Or else he's just a greedy rich asshole that simply hates liberals. Did I say liberals? I mean people. In any case, he's a liar. ACA is ONLY for people too rich for Medicaid who can't afford insurance.

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Need a good response to this Freeper poster on the ACA [View all] NewJeffCT Oct 2013 OP

I believe this is true, unless his state opted-out of the Medicare expansion. Ian David Oct 2013 #1

thanks NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #7

You mean Medicaid expansion not Medicare. And if he makes so little he would have qualified PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #60

Awesome. n/t Ian David Oct 2013 #71

You're posting on Freepers? BellaKos Oct 2013 #2

No NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #4

reply that it's an opportunity for both sides to work together alc Oct 2013 #3

Who is "hurt" by the ACA? There are some who will pay more according to income. Squinch Oct 2013 #6

One could easily argue that it's "only a matter of time" before subsidies are decreased. DireStrike Oct 2013 #17

I am not trying to sell anyone anything. I am asking who is hurt. Squinch Oct 2013 #19

Are you arguing that because the fee might be waived, nobody will be hurt? DireStrike Oct 2013 #21

I am not arguing anything. I am asking who is hurt. Squinch Oct 2013 #22

You are attempting to use rhetorical devices in a one-on-one conversation DireStrike Oct 2013 #23

No, I'm not attempting to use anything. I am asking who is hurt by the ACA. Squinch Oct 2013 #26

It depends on your definition of "hurt" ... oldhippie Oct 2013 #59

I am also trying to find out who is hurt by the ACA> Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #36

This poster is assuming that there will be no penalties for anyone ever DireStrike Oct 2013 #42

Number 2 is the killer B2G Oct 2013 #44

The whole plan depends on people like me buying in to the system. DireStrike Oct 2013 #45

And that is the major problem here B2G Oct 2013 #46

What's bizarre to me is someone (apparently working) running around uninsured bitching.. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #47

You might not understand it, but B2G Oct 2013 #50

I understand it just fine. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #55

There's two reasons you're wrong jeff47 Oct 2013 #57

Can you please elaborate on what sort of care requires a deductible? DireStrike Oct 2013 #67

It's on Healthcare.gov jeff47 Oct 2013 #68

Thank you. DireStrike Oct 2013 #69

The question was, who is hurt by the ACA? DireStrike Oct 2013 #65

We cannot have this conversation on our side. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #56

I hear you, but I am a realist B2G Oct 2013 #58

It is appreciated. -nt- DireStrike Oct 2013 #70

I am Disadvantaged by the ACA stuckinodi Oct 2013 #37

But your status doesn't change. You are currently uninsured, and you will remain uninsured. Squinch Oct 2013 #38

It's not an "individual fine", it's a tax per Supreme Court solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #5

Sorry. I agree with him. LWolf Oct 2013 #8

THIS Heather MC Oct 2013 #10

Unfortunately, this is true for many. antiquie Oct 2013 #12

Yes. And, unfortunately, LWolf Oct 2013 #15

I am noticing an interesting trend, the only people who claim to have to pay more for ACA are Repubs Heather MC Oct 2013 #9

Upper middle class people antiquie Oct 2013 #11

But they Can Keep what they have Heather MC Oct 2013 #14

You are probably right. antiquie Oct 2013 #16

I have Tricare so I guess I don't need it but Heather MC Oct 2013 #20

Most dental insurance sucks NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #25

We cannot keep what we have. cilla4progress Oct 2013 #61

Well then they should keep the plan the have. ACA wasn't meant for the upper middle class Fla Dem Oct 2013 #29

We've been over this before B2G Oct 2013 #30

I think it is funny all these wacko birds who claim to hate Gov Heather MC Oct 2013 #35

Or simply closed cilla4progress Oct 2013 #62

Yes B2G Oct 2013 #63

I am speaking about California. YMMV. antiquie Oct 2013 #34

It's the family glitch... Barack_America Oct 2013 #27

That's what happens when you allow obstructionist to write the laws Heather MC Oct 2013 #41

Exactly! cilla4progress Oct 2013 #64

Simply get a job that had health insurance benefits! krispos42 Oct 2013 #13

and don't forget NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #18

You're being sarcastic? B2G Oct 2013 #31

yes NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #48

It's hard to tell sometimes B2G Oct 2013 #51

Reflecting back at them... krispos42 Oct 2013 #66

This ^^^^^^^ treestar Oct 2013 #40

Isn't there an exemption for being unable to afford insurance? ck4829 Oct 2013 #24

Yes, see response #1 NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #28

Has he even checked what his costs would be under ACA rurallib Oct 2013 #32

In the book "The Doorbell Rang" by Rex Stout... Savannahmann Oct 2013 #33

Not always NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #49

How about "I don't talk to dimwits who refuse to learn a thing"? Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #39

ask him blueknight Oct 2013 #43

people will only be fined if they CAN afford it (with subsidies) but refuse anyway. librechik Oct 2013 #52

There's a subsidy if you can't afford it. Those not getting a subsidy BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #53

It depends on his income whether he qualifies for the subsidy. It also depends on his income if he lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #54