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BlueCaliDem

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189. I was of the same mind as you.

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:58 PM

Oct 2013

I didn't expect Senator Obama to run for the presidency so quickly after being elected to the U.S. Senate, and that's why I had voted for Edwards in the primary who was the only one who openly apologized for his vote on the IWR. And I liked his "two Americas" speech.

Of course, I'm happy that he lost in the primaries and we dodged a bullet there. We would've been looking at four more years of Republican impeachment zest because of Rielle Hunter, and his loss of popularity among Americans and women because of how he treated his terminally ill wife.

So far, Senator Warren has been an excellent Liberal. She speaks to Liberals and working Americans, and she puts her money where her mouth is. But I believe it's too soon for her to run for president. And she's stated, very clearly, that she won't.

That said, a new survey has shown that America is in the center. 51% of Americans find themselves there. You can read about it here: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/15/20960588-the-new-american-center-why-our-nation-isnt-as-divided-as-we-think?lite

Here is a link to the Esquire/NBC News survey: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53277240#intro

In summary, I don't believe someone as Liberal as Senator Warren could win in a presidential primary or the presidency, and it's important we put another Democrat in the WH after President Obama leaves the office. SCOTUS hangs in the balance.

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You won't see Hillary Clinton in the same light ever again [View all] FourScore Oct 2013 OP

nope. not buying. don't want her as the nominee. cali Oct 2013 #1

Wow. n/t FourScore Oct 2013 #5

I know! Evergreen Emerald Oct 2013 #16

Hillary Flubbed her Destiny Ace Acme Oct 2013 #157

If we banished every pol . . . MrModerate Oct 2013 #276

No we wouldn't. bvar22 Oct 2013 #282

I stand corrected. n/t MrModerate Oct 2013 #352

I don't think it was the lizard brain in the physiological sense. Crunchy Frog Oct 2013 #355

NAH, she made an awesome Secretary of State & helped so many women believe in the dream. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #337

who do you suggest joshcryer Oct 2013 #8

I don't recommend worrying about the anti-Hillary posts. At this point, its too late for anyone else stevenleser Oct 2013 #19

Hmmm ... sounds like what they tweeternik Oct 2013 #86

Poor argument DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2013 #105

lol .... so judgemental .... tweeternik Oct 2013 #128

Who? BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #135

In 2004? Yes, I watched Obama's keynote speech too. Demit Oct 2013 #172

I was of the same mind as you. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #189

Warren is not as liberal as you might think. She stands up for the middle class, but she has JDPriestly Oct 2013 #340

Warren only looks Liberal... bvar22 Oct 2013 #368

My opinion, precisely. I don't think that big business really has anything to fear from her other JDPriestly Oct 2013 #390

Agree ... I doubt any of us thought, in 2004, that Obama could tweeternik Oct 2013 #191

I assure you. The Republicans have a research file on Hillary that would scare any Democrat. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #339

Actually, Hillary DOES have a great, warm personality DFW Oct 2013 #350

There's only one Muhammad Ali and One Barack Obama/nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2013 #229

Love Ali .... tweeternik Oct 2013 #291

Nope, its years too late for that comparison. See my #142 stevenleser Oct 2013 #144

I tend to be careful with tweeternik Oct 2013 #197

I do too. I almost never make them. If Hillary runs, no way can she be beat. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #280

yeah, you're probably right tweeternik Oct 2013 #290

that's what people thought in 2008. I think she would have been about as good as Obama yurbud Oct 2013 #132

No, by this time in the 2008 campaign, Obama had been on the national scene for 2-3 years and... stevenleser Oct 2013 #142

Exactly! Thank you! eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #152

we Don't need a liberal either. du tends to provide okieinpain Oct 2013 #249

if you mean we don't have the money to buy enough politicians, you're right yurbud Oct 2013 #260

that DLC "realism" looks a lot more like corruption to those of us outside the bubble and is nothing yurbud Oct 2013 #262

Why so much hate for President Obama? Leontius Oct 2013 #270

can people drop that stupid "hate" talking point? yurbud Oct 2013 #293

Those two posts just flew right over your head didn't they. Leontius Oct 2013 #373

how many people actually fit the bill of a progressive. okieinpain Oct 2013 #271

when it gets down to primaries, many of us vote for the most progressive of what's left yurbud Oct 2013 #294

sorry sir DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #274

Liberal ideas... davidthegnome Oct 2013 #364

you guys know america is a funny place. i remember how okieinpain Oct 2013 #398

That will not get her elected. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #259

Hillary Clinton full speech before Iraq war vote. delrem Oct 2013 #275

She was the only Senator to give a speech, actually. joshcryer Oct 2013 #320

Thank you! delrem Oct 2013 #325

Elizabeth Warren has already said she is not running. She didn't leave much wiggle room either. stevenleser Oct 2013 #277

The Hillary machine is very corrupt and aiming to ward off any honest person JDPriestly Oct 2013 #279

I disagree, but it doesn't matter. Hillary will win the nomination and the Presidency and... stevenleser Oct 2013 #283

all I can say is AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #292

Yes. I'm trying. And you are too. Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #344

Nobody ever mentions Dick Durbin (IL) fadedrose Oct 2013 #307

I remember similar comments in 2008, long before that actually. But as sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #310

I don't care, I just want people to offer suggestions. joshcryer Oct 2013 #321

I agree 100% with your point. It's asinine to whine about Hillary without alternatives stevenleser Oct 2013 #380

Elizabeth Warren, Allan Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Anyone dedicated to Workers over BiDzness. Vincardog Oct 2013 #269

Warren is not running. See my #277 above. I'm 99% sure Grayson and Sanders will not run either. stevenleser Oct 2013 #278

My reply was to post #8 "who do you suggest"? As I said I want anybody who values Workers over Vincardog Oct 2013 #281

And my point is, none of your suggestions are running. It would be great if FDR was here. He's not. stevenleser Oct 2013 #287

I am just expressing my preference. I was not aware the primary was already over. Vincardog Oct 2013 #288

Exactly! tweeternik Oct 2013 #297

I do not believe any of them have a chance of winning joshcryer Oct 2013 #319

You are not buying the article? DURHAM D Oct 2013 #11

no, I have no reason to doubt what's in the article cali Oct 2013 #20

You won't support her for President if she is our... Walk away Oct 2013 #25

I probably will. cali Oct 2013 #35

Bookmarked... ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #204

you would be wrong. I have no history of that here cali Oct 2013 #210

cali won't be doing that. nt dionysus Oct 2013 #225

will you come back and eat crow... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #233

Gladly. ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #236

She won't get anywhere near the nomination (Patriot Act Vote, Iraq War Vote = done) harun Oct 2013 #265

Welcome to DU. One can learn a lot here. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #341

I will not. Chan790 Oct 2013 #82

Results of jury service: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #94

Considering Hillary's economic plan does not differ all that much from Obama's, I found this to be LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #102

I'm decreasingly keen on the President but pragmatic about what can be done. Chan790 Oct 2013 #149

His policies and her policies have been congruent since the primaries LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #169

they were NOT congruent hfojvt Oct 2013 #226

and Obama wants a chained CPI...nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #272

But his personality is warm, and he works well with others. Hers is not, and she does not. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #342

Ummm....-o-kay. Her personality was so cold, he asked her to be SOS. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #343

It doesn't take that much warmth to be SOS. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #347

Yes it does. In fact, it takes a LOT. kthanks. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #362

So you're cool with calling Obama a a "filthy centrist technocrat with center-right economics"? LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #174

Obama is center-rightist neo-lib as well. He gave away single payer. He renewed the PATRIOT act. He Erose999 Oct 2013 #176

He did not "give away single payer" - You can't give away what you do not have to begin with karynnj Oct 2013 #195

You aren't likely to get what you don't ask for pscot Oct 2013 #247

With the very limited time that they had when they could actually pass something karynnj Oct 2013 #253

Legislation enabling drug re-importation was already before the Senate pscot Oct 2013 #255

That is true but not what was discussed before karynnj Oct 2013 #268

You make an excellet point dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #309

Obama's economic plan is why I laugh every time he is called "Progressive". Neo-Liberal to the core. Vincardog Oct 2013 #285

"What if Ted Cruz becomes a Democrat?" a2liberal Oct 2013 #108

I think it's crazy to even suggest Hillary and Cruz are equivalences... LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #167

Yes they would. As long as he "won" something so they could feel "happy". cui bono Oct 2013 #192

Yes, I thought Juror #6 nailed it dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #312

Wow, very surprised about the jury results... fadedrose Oct 2013 #122

For the turbulent times, chervilant Oct 2013 #224

It still is ugly. Beacool Oct 2013 #240

So did I! Quit for several years. I could sleep better. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #256

Or if we choose a more unifying candidate - eom dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #313

Like whom? Hillary is our best candidate likely to win this election. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #367

Respectfully disagree dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #386

Your're correct Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #387

DLC is not name-calling dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #391

It still sucks, it's just a different flavor of suck Capn Sunshine Oct 2013 #332

Amazing. A nauseating post matched by a unanimous nauseating jury decision. Hekate Oct 2013 #238

when the DLC has no argument, they try to shut people up. yurbud Oct 2013 #264

+1 Marr Oct 2013 #109

That is really what should be happening instead of this constant lesser of two evils cui bono Oct 2013 #188

I will never make it through the year listening to this crap. Walk away Oct 2013 #193

And how do you answer the Ted Cruz as a Dem question? dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #314

2nd that (n/t) bread_and_roses Oct 2013 #205

So you both pretend you are the sole judge of who is a Democrat and don't vote for Democrats ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #207

Better question is why are you here? dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #315

The Democratic Underground is for Democrats ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #346

Wel,, personally I hold my nose dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #353

The GOP has redefined "Conservative". Speaking of them, it means "insane" ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #375

Well, see, there is the problem dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #384

i pretty much agree with what you said BUT filthy was`t needed. madrchsod Oct 2013 #231

Hillary is trying to steamroll her way to the nomination. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #267

Hopefully it is ok to post this info here dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #316

That's a lot of detailed research. Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #338

You're welcome, though not my research dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #354

So you decided to take over the thread and make it about 2016 DURHAM D Oct 2013 #29

take over the thread? Oh please. I posted in it. cali Oct 2013 #38

As long as you've been here you dont realize this is SOP for DU? 7962 Oct 2013 #59

yeah, I know, but what the hell cali Oct 2013 #67

I respect you. nt 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2013 #125

well thank you. cali Oct 2013 #137

Do you honestly believe theKed Oct 2013 #123

As a politician I am not a fan of HC left is right Oct 2013 #363

Thanks for your very informative post. MineralMan Oct 2013 #17

I've explained them repeatedly cali Oct 2013 #23

See, the thing is that you appear to believe that DUers know MineralMan Oct 2013 #31

if it doesn't matter, my friend, don't go through your phony cali Oct 2013 #39

As always, I'll comment as I choose, just as you will. MineralMan Oct 2013 #46

But we're already being told dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #317

I'm with you here Plucketeer Oct 2013 #60

It is unfortunate that you are so quick to react that you didn't bother to listen grantcart Oct 2013 #22

Exactly. You are so articulate grantcart. FourScore Oct 2013 #40

None of that matters. JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #61

How about: Hilary Clinton has done wonderful things for women around the world Demit Oct 2013 #198

Refusing to acknowledge the positives is injecting negativitiy in this instance. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #221

No, a thread becomes whatever responses people make to the OP. Demit Oct 2013 #235

did she say , in the speech, that she was now against tpp leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #140

well that's odd since she took a leading part in drafting it AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #328

That is an amazingly cynical response on so many levels. efhmc Oct 2013 #41

it's all part and parcel of the sales pitch. cali Oct 2013 #139

Maybe this was about politics to you but I took it as a story about a human doing good, efhmc Oct 2013 #164

Well, the OP is pretty much pro-Hillary campaign posturing Maedhros Oct 2013 #170

Wow. SamYeager Oct 2013 #43

The Original Post said nothing about nomination or campaigns or politics. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #50

if someone is running for office and the post is on a political discussion board, an article about yurbud Oct 2013 #134

No. The article is what it is. You can impugn the original poster's motives if you like, but Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #154

So if she was not planning on running this event would not have taken place bobduca Oct 2013 #158

Yes, it would have. You have nothing to base your assertion that it would not have taken place. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #161

I have nothing? really? You seem to have the 'vapors' over any assertion bobduca Oct 2013 #162

You have nothing, or you would not start making it personal with remarks like "vapors". Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #178

Keep sneering.. bobduca Oct 2013 #181

So, you knowingly used sexist language in a thread celebrating women. You still have nothing. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #185

Who is running for office? Beacool Oct 2013 #242

people don't even buy that king of hair splitting in DC yurbud Oct 2013 #295

you give yourself away. Think what a real person would think and say yurbud Oct 2013 #329

Women honoring a woman are flaks? Beacool Oct 2013 #371

every word is probably true. I'm talking about claiming posting it is unrelated to her presidential yurbud Oct 2013 #389

Some of the replies to your post are silly TomClash Oct 2013 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #110

why bless you, new poster. aren't you a pip? cali Oct 2013 #141

Your concern is noted. Welcome to DU, where you registered today to make your 1st post an attack. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #186

I'd just like to say it's hilarious the way people are acting like this *isn't* a sales pitch. Marr Oct 2013 #112

1,000 points for saying 'Oh my stars and garters..' HappyMe Oct 2013 #117

no shit frylock Oct 2013 #126

it is pretty amusing. gotta love the blatant, self-righteous dishonesty. Or not. cali Oct 2013 #138

Blatant, self-righteous dishonesty is par for the course in DLC/Third Way political messaging now. woo me with science Oct 2013 #215

Check, Check and Double Check Agony Oct 2013 #289

Hilarious and predictable bobduca Oct 2013 #148

What I think is funny is that the election is three years off, but we've already endured winter is coming Oct 2013 #251

Then vote for someone else. Beacool Oct 2013 #121

fair enough. I have no problem with people supporting her cali Oct 2013 #143

Agreed. HappyMe Oct 2013 #156

The names that the President has been called here over the years... Whisp Oct 2013 #237

Exactly. HappyMe Oct 2013 #241

Hear! Hear! BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #151

Why not try this simple test to find the American "center"? eridani Oct 2013 #333

I'd vote for her after the primaries, but I'm not 100% happy about her Victor_c3 Oct 2013 #145

I don't want Hillary either (nt) bigwillq Oct 2013 #146

me neither bobduca Oct 2013 #150

+1 krawhitham Oct 2013 #196

wouldn't pick her as my first choice... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #228

Wow. You hate Obama AND Hilary. Who, pray tell, DID you support for president in 2008? kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #232

I hate neither one of them. and you know remarkably little about cali Oct 2013 #234

You're much too clever (or so you think) to come out and overtly express how you feel about them. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #254

I'm not Hillary's biggest fan either. RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #261

Not buying what, that she's an amazing women? That's what the article is about. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #266

And therefore cannot applaud any of the great things she has done? renie408 Oct 2013 #296

Most recent history shows Hilary quickly supported bombing Syria about allegations of chemical drynberg Oct 2013 #358

Thanks for this. Squinch Oct 2013 #2

No more corporatists and warmongers. Period. nt woo me with science Oct 2013 #3

You better get busy ... or you'll be whining about President Hillary in 2016. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #6

unlikely joshcryer Oct 2013 #10

I think if she runs, she wins ... but ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #12

Yep, the GOP is too busy forming their circular firing squad to beat her! 7962 Oct 2013 #65

Not necessarily. HappyMe Oct 2013 #14

i think Hillary will be an awesome President and will do alot of good for the US and the World samsingh Oct 2013 #97

That remains to be seen. HappyMe Oct 2013 #101

She supports the TPP - that will do wonders for us dflprincess Oct 2013 #305

Obama isn't nearly as polarizing as Hillary. joshcryer Oct 2013 #323

oh horse shit Most people here will vote for her cali Oct 2013 #27

Of course I will. HappyMe Oct 2013 #28

Most people...including you, cali? MineralMan Oct 2013 #49

Like you, I'll post what I please and answer the questions cali Oct 2013 #68

Account self-implosion has little to do with voter intent. joshcryer Oct 2013 #322

Especially one with connections to 'The Family' PeoViejo Oct 2013 #18

Nope, the enablers, the DLC. RC Oct 2013 #48

+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Oct 2013 #53

The DLC as well.... PeoViejo Oct 2013 #113

I knew her roots were Right Wing Republican, but that far off the cliff? RC Oct 2013 #127

Here's some starting material for ya'.... PeoViejo Oct 2013 #155

The more I learn about her, the less I like her. RC Oct 2013 #326

Agree wholeheartedly. PeoViejo Oct 2013 #357

Yes, those connections are quite real dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #318

yep--Dems could win supermajorities in both chambers and if the DLC is at the helm yurbud Oct 2013 #159

Thank You... haikugal Oct 2013 #302

The Truth will make you Free PeoViejo Oct 2013 #303

Prediction: ProSense Oct 2013 #51

+1 AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #107

Actually, it seems more like Obama's biggest fans are into Hillary as well. Marr Oct 2013 #116

++ Whisp Oct 2013 #160

You're presenting your own demand as a prediction. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #171

My "demand"? ProSense Oct 2013 #202

Pretending not to understand... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #211

You're confused. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #214

Hillary vs Obama, on the issues: joshcryer Oct 2013 #348

+1 Marr Oct 2013 #114

The warmonger thing is a huge pill for me to swallow Victor_c3 Oct 2013 #147

She is a distinguished world leader Evergreen Emerald Oct 2013 #4

This DURHAM D Oct 2013 #9

Thank you. Hillary is going to be our party's nominee and ripping her to shreds... Walk away Oct 2013 #30

Kind of like ripping Obama to shreds does now. HappyMe Oct 2013 #34

I believe it's going to help Democrats immensely.n/t Chan790 Oct 2013 #99

For sure. JohnnyLib2 Oct 2013 #32

Thank you. She has done so much more than most for people the world over. nolabear Oct 2013 #56

Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Oct 2013 #124

+100000 Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #374

Thanks for posting. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #7

That is quite touching. Laelth Oct 2013 #13

I can't wait to hear who has "longer coattails" Please let me know! nt Walk away Oct 2013 #33

Perhaps Dennis K. will come roaring back. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #36

It's a bit of a low blow to pick on Representative Kucinich. Laelth Oct 2013 #83

DK always acted the outliar - much like Ted Cruz. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #111

Please tell me that your use of the word "outliar" was an unintentional misspelling. Laelth Oct 2013 #118

Even Ted Cruz didn't see UFOs.... Walk away Oct 2013 #182

"It was a flying object, and it was unidentified, all right? I saw something." Demit Oct 2013 #218

So you have appointed yourself in charge of who is a Democrat on the sole basis..... Walk away Oct 2013 #179

LOL. I think I'll "Walk away" from this one. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #183

But he has ties to FOX News now. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #120

Hillary Clinton sat on the board of directors of Walmart for years. Maedhros Oct 2013 #173

Dennis K disgusted me when I learned he was against a woman's right to choose BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #163

Cute. There is an i in "district," though�as in Congressional district. Demit Oct 2013 #220

Now *that* word play is your attempt to be cute. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #300

When I find such a candidate, I'll let you know. Laelth Oct 2013 #47

I am really hoping that Elizabeth Warren will run. HappyMe Oct 2013 #58

No matter whom we choose to nominate ... Laelth Oct 2013 #63

Exactly. HappyMe Oct 2013 #66

I wish Bernie Sanders would run. With Warren as VP. n/t FourScore Oct 2013 #73

I am quite fond of Senator Sanders, but he's not a Democrat. Laelth Oct 2013 #78

That's the problem. It would split the dem ticket. {{{Sigh}}} Sad. n/t FourScore Oct 2013 #84

Since you are the self appointed head of "Who can be a Democrat"... Walk away Oct 2013 #187

Indeed. I hope she does run. Laelth Oct 2013 #190

She has done amazing human rights work Greybnk48 Oct 2013 #15

Streep's speech is masterful. grantcart Oct 2013 #21

big rec bigtree Oct 2013 #24

K&R highplainsdem Oct 2013 #26

That has been the area where she has done the most good. blm Oct 2013 #37

I agree in the area of women's issues she has done great work davidpdx Oct 2013 #72

I disagree. Hillary is not my first choice for President (Sanders is) and I posted the OP! FourScore Oct 2013 #79

Actually, some of us did already know this and have acknowledged her efforts blm Oct 2013 #153

Hmm. Kinda sounds like you're saying you were paying attention, ergo you knew this stuff. FourScore Oct 2013 #201

No - it means the mainstream media were asleep. One would have HAD to blm Oct 2013 #206

Ahhh! Yes! I completely agree! FourScore Oct 2013 #230

Hillary is a noble fighter fredamae Oct 2013 #42

+10 RC Oct 2013 #64

If people are honest fredamae Oct 2013 #74

Naa, too much work. RC Oct 2013 #80

Perhaps but hopefully fredamae Oct 2013 #88

Those of us that don't worship, already know and understand. RC Oct 2013 #98

I've Literally never watched any of those fredamae Oct 2013 #103

Very good advice. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #95

Nailed it. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #70

All questions I want answered. HappyMe Oct 2013 #71

I couldn't agree more! n/t fredamae Oct 2013 #76

DLC is not for upper middle class. they are for the 1% of 1% yurbud Oct 2013 #219

This is Very true fredamae Oct 2013 #222

Are you a mind reader or psychic? Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #379

My post Hopefully fredamae Oct 2013 #385

I will support Hillary Clinton 100% SamYeager Oct 2013 #44

Me too. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #258

She is a great liberal greatlaurel Oct 2013 #45

Calling her a liberal is a bit of a stretch. I would gladly vote for her if she is.... yourout Oct 2013 #52

Ditto. Hillary's a wonderful woman, as this post clearly demonstrates. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #69

Hillary? Liberal? Laelth Oct 2013 #104

Liberalism is better than that, I'd hope. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #168

She is not a liberal. cui bono Oct 2013 #194

I have not seen any misogyny in this thread. Demit Oct 2013 #223

Big K&R! The speech is fantastic. nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #54

I think she is wonderful on many levels. I don't want her as the nominee. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #55

Great speech by Streep. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #57

Great stuff! JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #62

�Women�s Rights are Human Rights� whttevrr Oct 2013 #75

Because it's Hillary. Beacool Oct 2013 #304

Hillary's outreach to women on the global stage has been uplifting. toby jo Oct 2013 #77

We sanctimoniously in the US pat ourselves on our 'advanced' culture, closeupready Oct 2013 #81

So true. n/t FourScore Oct 2013 #85

I like Hillary davidthegnome Oct 2013 #87

Elizabeth Warren is too Liberal for the "New American Center". BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #180

I don't agree on those reasons. cui bono Oct 2013 #200

A couple things davidthegnome Oct 2013 #365

Being better on social issues, while great, is not enough to make me support her for Pres. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #89

Hillary Undone. bvar22 Oct 2013 #284

+100 truebluegreen Oct 2013 #301

Thanks for these terrific videos, hadn't seen some of them. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #90

STAND UP AND CHEER, PEOPLE! Then work your hearts out to get Hillary elected. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #91

I like it when you get your Irish up...especially when I agree! nt Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #263

A wonderful and well-deserved tribute... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #92

kick samsingh Oct 2013 #93

I hope that Hillary Clinton continues her work doing good deeds in Central America and Africa. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #100

well stated frylock Oct 2013 #130

That was lovely. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #106

Thanks for posting this...I think she'll be an even stronger candidate this time.... Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #115

I have decided that I do not have a duty to vote. MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #119

.... 840high Oct 2013 #129

Ranked-Choice Voting Might Solve Your "Rank Choices" Problem Ace Acme Oct 2013 #177

wow--sort of like the way she called bullshit on Bush & Cheney, called for their impeachment and yurbud Oct 2013 #131

Good observation. cui bono Oct 2013 #203

or the way she's out in front calling for Wall Street bankers to be prosecuted and their banks yurbud Oct 2013 #216

Very important read ColumbusLib Oct 2013 #133

Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2013 #136

Clinton voted for the war of aggression in 2003. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #165

there she voted for women to be bombed to pieces in shock and awe and if they survived yurbud Oct 2013 #213

It's Hillary Time! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #166

Nope. No more 3rd Way, corporatist, war mongers. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #175

k and r niyad Oct 2013 #184

If only wishing made it so. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #199

Proud to have worked for her. Will do so in 2016. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #208

"That is what Hillary Clinton embodies." Yep - that's ONE thing she embodies... polichick Oct 2013 #209

I will NOT support Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, for the same reason ................ Martin Eden Oct 2013 #212

kick Jamastiene Oct 2013 #217

I am happy to know that Hillary does more than just talk about women's rights. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #227

Just a thought... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #239

For president???????????? Beacool Oct 2013 #243

Yeah,...we need another in a long line of insiders. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #245

I like her dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #324

"I also like the idea of running a liberal Reagan at the Republicans." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #330

Sure, not clear to me where you're coming from though - eom dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #331

I'm just musing over the comedic aspect of a Reagan worshiping Moran being taken to the woodshed. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #335

Yep, there would be some satisfaction in that dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #336

As it stands right now, when Japan wants to see the Ambassador to the United States,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #345

Love her or hate her.... ohheckyeah Oct 2013 #244

Hillary is a remarkable woman. Beacool Oct 2013 #246

The OP is very, very moving. I really didn't know. Unfortunately, I can't rec this thread because... Hekate Oct 2013 #248

This piece of sensationalistic journalism doesn't cover up the fact Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #250

There is no one willing to commit political suicide in the Dem party or who can raise a billion libdem4life Oct 2013 #252

Grayson has his own billion dollars dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #327

Would absolutely work and vote for him. Didn't realize he was that well funded. libdem4life Oct 2013 #366

She already had my vote and that of those in my family ffr Oct 2013 #257

She may have done good things DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #273

Sorry. Never voting for her. alarimer Oct 2013 #286

This place is so disheartening. renie408 Oct 2013 #298

Forget the "savvy and knowledgeable" and move to "assholes". Beacool Oct 2013 #306

If only she didn't scare me with her hawkishness, I could support her. dkf Oct 2013 #351

It was a sensationalistic piece of fluff. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #376

The second video needs a post of its own -- Hillary Clinton is a boss!! JTShroyer Oct 2013 #299

Polarizing.. DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #334

Yeah, because she's Bill's mommy........... Beacool Oct 2013 #369

eh, really? DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #381

Rethink your first sentence. It sounded very RW and sexist. Beacool Oct 2013 #382

actually the opposite was meant DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #388

Rec for the points specifically raised in this article suffragette Oct 2013 #308

Hey she's my neighbor.. Historic NY Oct 2013 #311

You live in Chappaqua? Beacool Oct 2013 #370

In the valley, they are out and about... Historic NY Oct 2013 #392

"and we didn�t want to be accused of imposing our own cultural values" - glad she made that point. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #349

Sure I will. LWolf Oct 2013 #356

Great video Gothmog Oct 2013 #359

Does this mean Clinton isn't... 99Forever Oct 2013 #360

Several thoughts on an HC nomination left is right Oct 2013 #361

I hate when people say Hillary's success is only because she's Bill's wife JTShroyer Oct 2013 #372

women need a strong advocate. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #377

What you said. Beacool Oct 2013 #383

She is a good boss. She does, however, love herself some war Taverner Oct 2013 #378

I. Love. This. Woman. JTShroyer Oct 2013 #393

Why Republicans are wrong on Benghazi JTShroyer Oct 2013 #394

If enough people see Meryl's speech, Hillary WILL be elected President in 2016. It's that powerful. JTShroyer Oct 2013 #395

This truly is Hillary's hidden history. I hope everyone knows about this come 2016. JTShroyer Oct 2013 #396

Everyone needs to watch these two videos JTShroyer Oct 2013 #397