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hedgehog

(36,286 posts) Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:02 PM Oct 2013

Here's why I am doubtful about Hillary Clinton - [View all]

and please, I'm asking for information here, so give me your best sales pitch -

but back in 1993, she was in charge of bringing us a Health Care Plan. It got slapped down by the Right, and as far as I know, that was the end of that. It's not that she compromised, it's that as far as I can tell, she left the field entirely.

that's one reason. Here's the second - she stands for women's rights worldwide, but what else does she stand for? It's great for me that one of my daughters has a job as well paid and with as much responsibility as one of my son's. But I have another daughter and another son who are both underemployed. All of my kids are still paying off student loans, will be for the next ten years, and they all went to state schools. As Senator from New York, I don't know what she did for my region except to grease the skids for a major mall expansion in Syracuse that neither the city nor the county wanted. It sucked the life out of the rest of the city, and coincidentally made money for a Republican developer who happened to be a big Clinton donor. Now I know that politicians need money, so I don't have to like all their friends. I do expect them to do something for me and mine as well as the big money people.

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Here's why I am doubtful about Hillary Clinton - [View all] hedgehog Oct 2013 OP

Bookmarking. Laelth Oct 2013 #1

I loves me some popcorn. BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #3

I am unsure about what you mean by the last statement - but hedgehog Oct 2013 #6

... BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #14

IIRC, health care reform died before Bill Clinton had been in office 6 months. hedgehog Oct 2013 #16

Scoot over. HappyMe Oct 2013 #4

let google tell you beachbum bob Oct 2013 #2

But - tell me what gets you excited about Hillary. hedgehog Oct 2013 #7

My Friend, I'm going to say to a certain extent, I agree. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #5

It was as much the Left as the Right who threw her plan on the floor. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #8

But - did she pick herself up off the floor and try again? hedgehog Oct 2013 #9

This is not a serious question. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #10

Yes it is - did either Clinton push for Health care reform during the rest of his two terms? hedgehog Oct 2013 #11

What was she elected to in the 1990s? BainsBane Oct 2013 #26

Thank you for what you wrote. Beacool Oct 2013 #42

Exactly and just when 2014 is looking better treestar Oct 2013 #56

The Republicans took over Congress! coldmountain Oct 2013 #44

You ignore that HRC and Ira Magaziner developed the plan keeping the Senate karynnj Oct 2013 #28

Useful information. Thanks for the post. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #50

I would like to see a candidate who took on the big dogs to defend the rest of us yurbud Oct 2013 #12

This ^^^^^ hedgehog Oct 2013 #13

Yeah, that's true. HappyMe Oct 2013 #17

The cognitive dissonance is jarring. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #33

I don't understand it myself. HappyMe Oct 2013 #37

That is because DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #53

the handful of shills and their sock puppet identities are not DU yurbud Oct 2013 #35

Take a look at her role in establishing CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program) JohnnyLib2 Oct 2013 #15

I had forgotten that if I ever knew it. hedgehog Oct 2013 #20

You mean her very secondary role to Kennedy, Hatch and Kerry? karynnj Oct 2013 #30

I'm struggling with this, as well,as we cannot afford to lost these midterms and futz around trying libdem4life Oct 2013 #18

isnt she stil for TPP leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #19

Hillarycare was swept aside by Dems--not just the right Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21

What are her relations with the current crop of Democratic Senators hedgehog Oct 2013 #22

Very strong Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #23

That's a plus for her. hedgehog Oct 2013 #24

She stands for education, an end to human trafficking and slavery BainsBane Oct 2013 #25

Oh, and there it is! HappyMe Oct 2013 #41

You have two kids who are unemployed and paying off student loans? I assume that they are AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #27

Underemployed, but yeah. hedgehog Oct 2013 #29

I think that student loans should be repaid, but that traditional rules should be applied. I believe AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #36

Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #51

My biggest problem with her is that she is simply SheilaT Oct 2013 #31

In point of fact, there were a number of people in the race in 1991 - hedgehog Oct 2013 #32

Mario Cuomo was a possible SheilaT Oct 2013 #34

"I do not see her pushing new ideas or really fighting for the little people." ohheckyeah Oct 2013 #40

Also, given all the current anti-NSA sentiment in the public Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #38

I can not help.. stillcool Oct 2013 #39

Hillary in 2016. Yes! kiranon Oct 2013 #43

I've been told that the two people I like are not going to run, hedgehog Oct 2013 #46

Hillary will run and be the most formidable candidate in history coldmountain Oct 2013 #45

She will shoot the republicans with laser beams in her eyes Taverner Oct 2013 #48

We were told that in the run-up to '08. How'd that work out for her? n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #49

LOL, she will not even be the nominee. n-t Logical Oct 2013 #55

Agreed Taverner Oct 2013 #47

Those who were around in 2008 would remember that I wasn't the biggest fan of HRC� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #52

I do not hate her DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #54

As this thread shows, HRC has stood for more than 'just' women's rights. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #57