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41. "...making affirmative judgments without any evidence..."

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:19 PM

Oct 2013

Forgive me...I'm just well versed in media, marketing and strategy so I'm just chiming in with my professional opinion on what has a good chance of being successful and what doesn't...And $250 million in funding doesn't automatically make a shitty idea a great one...Yeah, I know to wait and see the final product, but I'm not bullish on the details I've read so far...

Even if they're building "investigative reporting teams" for sports/business/entertainment/etc., my earlier questions still stand...And proper investigative reporting requires longform writing, which is a lost art in this age of blogs and tweets...At the bare minimum please eliminate sports, because there's nothing more they can bring to the market that others don't...

Ironically, given how much Greenwald loves to call out "cowardly" reporters, why not make it a media criticism or watchdog site? That seems to be right down his alley...

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Why Glenn Greenwald�s new media venture is a big deal [View all] dkf Oct 2013 OP

So this is going to be a venture... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #1

What is this vendetta that you have against Glenn Greenwald? ReRe Oct 2013 #4

Or even just... a bit much. villager Oct 2013 #5

Like "anti-Snowden", anti-whistleblower.... ReRe Oct 2013 #6

anti-truth? You better stop listening to Greenwald right away! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #9

What is he saving? He's been publishing regularly all over the world... Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #19

and that means what exactly? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #27

What is he saving? The question is clear. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #30

Uh no... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #33

You made the claim that he is holding back. So, cough it up. What is he holding back? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #40

I have no frigging idea...HE is the one saying that.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #56

Interesting. You have no idea but you assert it anyway. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #57

because he says so.....can you understand the words coming out of my keyboard? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #58

He's never claimed he is "saving" anything. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #59

All the anticipation is that Glenn Greenwald has more tasty tidbits to share.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #60

What? He has stated many times over Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #61

Does HE or Doesn't HE have more on NSA in the US or not? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #62

Glenn Greenwald is a journalist. ReRe Oct 2013 #49

It reminds me of the standard right wing attack on Michael Moore QC Oct 2013 #50

It is SOP for wingers ReRe Oct 2013 #51

You've railed against everything he's written on the topic, and now you're complaint is Marr Oct 2013 #78

Lol, he's been giving it away since he began his blog in 2005. Maybe when you make declarations sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #79

What is this odd hero worship to the point where his treestar Oct 2013 #70

You lost me... ReRe Oct 2013 #72

You replied to Vanilla Rhapsody with treestar Oct 2013 #73

LOL. A #1 / #12 opinion piece that still reliably pulls good old reliable #5 replies. Amazing! PSPS Oct 2013 #2

Not calling him a hack...calling him a hypocrite! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #10

and this is from the venerable "Washington Post", 7wo7rees Oct 2013 #3

Thank you for posting this. Very interesting insight... deurbano Oct 2013 #7

As I've mentioned in other threads Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #8

I know right? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #11

Not only that, it's just that the writer's premise is flat wrong Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #14

I'm sure the Powerpoint slides will be colorful, though. randome Oct 2013 #13

Yes. You keep saying that while completely ignoring statements Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #16

It's the last sentence that contradicts everything before it Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #20

It makes perfect sense... Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #24

"...making affirmative judgments without any evidence..." Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #41

Very cogent assessment Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #26

Seriously? ljm2002 Oct 2013 #52

so which big name sportswriters do the plan to hire? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #63

Regarding the point in question... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #64

You keep missing my point Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #67

I'm not missing your point, just disagreeing with it... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #71

Huffington Post Redux. MineralMan Oct 2013 #12

If you are waiting to see, then why did you mindlessly call it HuffPo Redux? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #18

He says wait and see if it survives. As I predicted earlier.... Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #23

Does Obama and Clinton know that Omidyar is a libertarian? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #28

Because that is my opinion. See my signature line. MineralMan Oct 2013 #29

So which opinion is valid? That it will be HuffPo Redux or that you will wait and see. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #35

If I had to guess, I'd say it will be closer to Salon Redux Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #48

That is exactly what came to my mind when reading the description provided. msanthrope Oct 2013 #25

Well, if they're pulling in Greenwald, MineralMan Oct 2013 #34

He certainly brought the site clicks to the Guardian, so Omidyar is smart msanthrope Oct 2013 #38

I'm not predicting anything. When it exists, I'll look at it. MineralMan Oct 2013 #39

Really. So building investigative reporting teams Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #36

Interesting Read! K&R! KoKo Oct 2013 #15

I bet it will be about half as successful as Current TV. phleshdef Oct 2013 #17

you bet? or you want that to happen? Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #21

This media enterprise has high probability of failure Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #22

still waiting to find out why it's a "big deal" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #31

the owners of Walmart offer thousands jobs. Whisp Oct 2013 #42

agreed..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #43

Can't wait to see what happens with this. polichick Oct 2013 #32

The corporate propaganda smear attempts will be THICK in threads like this. woo me with science Oct 2013 #37

So dangerous that he just got a blank check with complete autonomy? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #44

oooooh be afraid...be very afraid...GG is sooooooooo dangerous! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #45

Hey, I didn't know I was a Power That Be... Whisp Oct 2013 #46

No sh*t on the smear attempts... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #53

yeah, but will he be certified by DiFi? reddread Oct 2013 #54

That's what I don't understand.... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #68

It's fine with me if people criticize Greenwald... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #69

I'm on a cell phone, so i'll just list a cpl quick examples Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #76

Fair enough... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #77

death knell for corporate mind raping nonsense reddread Oct 2013 #47

should rename the ignore list the tillikum Oct 2013 #65

stinkophants reddread Oct 2013 #66

Kicked and recommended, I hope they're successful with their venture. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #55

Kick bobduca Oct 2013 #74

It's an interesting premise, a news organization "unbound" by politics. Robb Oct 2013 #75

any worthwhile website can generate income reddread Oct 2013 #81

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #80

Buh Bye, dkf Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #82

BBI! Rex Oct 2013 #83