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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders tells Ed Schultz: Southern Democrats are tired of being abandoned by the party [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)91. There are of course exceptions to every rule.
I grew up in a deep red, racist, homophobic state myself. I moved away 23 years ago, and it's even more rightwing these days.
Lee Atwater described it best:
You start out in 1954 by saying, Nigger, nigger, nigger. By 1968 you can't say nigger that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me because obviously sitting around saying, We want to cut this, is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than Nigger, nigger.
Why is Obamacare so unpopular with working class whites? Because they assume it was set up to help 'those people.'
With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest was a big gift, Mr. Romney said. Free contraceptives were very big with young, college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008.
The presidents health care plan, he said, was also a useful tool in mobilizing black and Hispanic voters. Though Mr. Romney won the white vote with 59 percent, according to exit polls, minorities coalesced around the president in overwhelming numbers: 93 percent of blacks and 71 percent of Hispanics.
You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told youre now going to get free health care, particularly if you dont have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity I mean, this is huge, Mr. Romney said. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.
The presidents health care plan, he said, was also a useful tool in mobilizing black and Hispanic voters. Though Mr. Romney won the white vote with 59 percent, according to exit polls, minorities coalesced around the president in overwhelming numbers: 93 percent of blacks and 71 percent of Hispanics.
You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told youre now going to get free health care, particularly if you dont have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity I mean, this is huge, Mr. Romney said. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/romney-blames-loss-on-obamas-gifts-to-minorities-and-young-voters/?_r=0
Do you think when Paul Ryan talks about 'dependency' he isn't using code for black people?
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Bernie Sanders tells Ed Schultz: Southern Democrats are tired of being abandoned by the party [View all]
Galraedia
Oct 2013
OP
The "50 state strategy" is what I first thought of when I saw this too........
socialist_n_TN
Oct 2013
#4
This is why even the petit bourgeoisie should not support capitalism.....
socialist_n_TN
Oct 2013
#92
Exactly! Many of my husband's high school friends are working class whites and they vote repub
anneboleyn
Oct 2013
#45
You assume that shoveling money creates victory for the shoveler but facts do
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#85
Might win some in the West? The entire West Coast is Blue, all Senators, Governors
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#86
Not just Congressional seats, there is a need to focus on State Houses and state legislatures.
Fla Dem
Oct 2013
#17
He doesn't get white Southerners. Different culture than Vermont Yankees. nt
geek tragedy
Oct 2013
#23
I think your description is of racists and homphobes and to extend that to all
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#88
Precisely it's like fighting with one arm tied behind your back or negotiating from a position
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#54
Obama made an irrevocable mistake when he abandoned Dean's 50 state strategy.
last1standing
Oct 2013
#51
Can we get those guys to vote Democratic without abandoning what they're "hung up on"?
Silent3
Oct 2013
#57
If it's MORE important to someone to keep their gay neighbor from getting married
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#72
Like it or not, the South is the hub of evangelical Christianity in America...
YoungDemCA
Oct 2013
#82
The top members of the Democratic Party cannot keep abandoning those who voted for them.
AnotherMcIntosh
Oct 2013
#87