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In reply to the discussion: Heads-Up !!! - 'Why Democrats Might Cave On Social Security Cuts' - HuffPo [View all]Brigid
(17,621 posts)86. But why just sit back and let it get that far?
We may not be able to stop it then.
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Heads-Up !!! - 'Why Democrats Might Cave On Social Security Cuts' - HuffPo [View all]
WillyT
Oct 2013
OP
No. Raise the cap on payments. It's called Fair Share. No cuts. Expand the funding base.
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#2
SO the richest 100 people might be eligible for 260k annual retirement benefits
FogerRox
Oct 2013
#172
$90 Billion...had no idea. That would probably be easier (?) than SS changes.
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#179
That makes sense. Because once you open up the SS conversation, kind of like a genie in a bottle.
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#206
Now I remember why I wasn't an accountant...appreciate the explanation. Put in minimum wage
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#219
The government has treated SS as a revenue stream to avoid raising taxes so raise the cap or,
emsimon33
Oct 2013
#250
When a prominent Democrat like Durbin LIES through his teeth to the detriment of poor people
99th_Monkey
Oct 2013
#4
Durbin is not welcome in Palm Springs he voted for DOMA so he should stay among
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#79
I quit donating to Durbin when he first expressed his support for cuts to social security.
Enthusiast
Oct 2013
#84
And he IS lying. SS is NOT in trouble, and the Baby Boomers, contrary to his false claims are the
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#173
Support Elizabeth Warren. I bet she knows how to make the right cuts. She is good at math.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#158
Cut 50% from the biggest entitlement program of all - the Defense Dept budget
AlbertCat
Oct 2013
#151
I think this is political chess. The Repubs want SS cuts, but none of them campaign on it with
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#80
Based on his actions, I would say that it's Durbin's mission to derail Democratic victories.
gtar100
Oct 2013
#81
Any change in Social Security benefits that results in a decrease is a DEFAULT
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#164
I'd bet you cash money that's what's coming. Obama has been maneuvering for SS cuts
Marr
Oct 2013
#244
But democrats being democrats, we all have to worry about their lack of a spine.
truedelphi
Oct 2013
#280
Raise the cap and cut the military. Stop blaming the boomers ya fuckin sociopaths!
L0oniX
Oct 2013
#7
Perfect timing. This will revitalize the GOP. It's nothing but a gift to Republicans.
jsr
Oct 2013
#10
Do you think so? If the Repubs push SS cuts what will happen to their large senior base? I think
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#96
How are we putting it in the lap of the republicans when a senior Democratic senator
tularetom
Oct 2013
#135
It's not lost on me that the person who spoke on Fox has one of the safest Senate seats. Not
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#187
Are you seriously suggesting letting cuts to seniors to go through just so 'we can get their votes'?
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#247
First they'll have to get out of denial. When he offered it up before some kept telling me it didn't
cui bono
Oct 2013
#33
Well, if the President wants it, it is something good, something we should all embrace.
Enthusiast
Oct 2013
#111
As I recall the debates, Obama suggested raising the cap, and Hillary disagreed.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#254
To say that is being too generous. Dems have to want this too or they wouldn't be offering it up
cui bono
Oct 2013
#32
In 2008 Obama ran on raising the cap, this won my vote and he never mentioned it
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#87
No, but he got unlimited income on 3% hike for medicare. That's a huge increase. nt
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#104
Raising the cap to 90% of taxable income covers 1/3rd of the projected shortfall, from the CBO:
FogerRox
Oct 2013
#136
Once again, assuming things go as planned. We might have an unemployment rate double today's by
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#221
So projections are quite optimistic - GDP growth greater than we've seen in awhile, and
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#233
You are right. Nothing wrong with Social Security that more jobs and a higher minimum
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#176
OK, but if we can close some loopholes so they actually PAY 40% I'll be happy. nt
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#222
Yep. And would you believe I got attacked for saying that now that Obama opened up SS
cui bono
Oct 2013
#31
Cave-in is not the right wording. The word is default. It would be a default.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#189
But it can refuse to pay a debt, such as the debt it owes to the Social Security Trust Fund.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#210
Right. My sister and I delivered ads door to door. I was maybe 7-9 at the time.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#191
When the trust fund has been spent all the $ you contributed is gone to pay others.
dkf
Oct 2013
#77
Yeah we the tax payer pay interest for the general fund's borrowing from our social security fund.
dkf
Oct 2013
#129
not only did we put money in every day of our working lives, we put *extra* money in because
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#108
They're counting on our fatigue to push through SS and Medicaid cuts instead of raising 1% taxes
leveymg
Oct 2013
#21
And of course after next year's midterm disaster, it will be the liberals fault
Doctor_J
Oct 2013
#35
We're supposed to believe (again) that the Ponies frightened away undecided voters?
leveymg
Oct 2013
#178
OK, Dick, the People demand that Congress return every cent of the money it stole from our Social
Zorra
Oct 2013
#23
Most Democrats are cast members, along with all of the Republicans in this distracting, but sad tale
Dustlawyer
Oct 2013
#26
If you tax stock transactions, you tax transactions made by pension plans. So what?
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#94
Taxing stocks was not mentioned in that post either, but you made that assumption
Dragonfli
Oct 2013
#263
HOW can these men be such abject LIARS?? Do they think we cannot access the real truth in numbers??
WinkyDink
Oct 2013
#36
Your point makes me want to cry. I'll be 64 soon, and that, God willing, leads to sixty-five. I've
WinkyDink
Oct 2013
#268
Get our Living Wage Jobs back into this country would extend Social Security for at least forever.
RC
Oct 2013
#42
Centrists say anything that works that day. Obama has proposed raising the cap
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#102
Going after BY NAME the "BBG" is a shameless attempt to get the "YOUTH VOTE." Rule for the 14-yr-old
WinkyDink
Oct 2013
#48
Correct. creating 20 million jobs @ 36k each adds about 89 billion in additional FICA
FogerRox
Oct 2013
#145
I've BEEN to Mexico and it's true!! Barter is part of the fun of shopping there.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#174
Yeah, like divorce court - ask for 10x what you need to get what you do need.
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#184
@ Dick Durbin, Esteemed Senator, Have you lost your mind or just your spine?
Tigress DEM
Oct 2013
#73
We need a counter bill to lower SS to at least age 50yrs. This will generate a lot of
CK_John
Oct 2013
#61
Of course if he signs it, then it must be good. So there won't be any reason to complain.
progressoid
Oct 2013
#195
so dems are back to bending over for repubs? well that "spine" didnt last long lol nt
msongs
Oct 2013
#64
Hair On Fire, basically bringing up negative speculative narrative that 9.5 out of 10 fails. The ...
uponit7771
Oct 2013
#156
Obama's budget is not speculation. Nor are his words in favor of cuts, or Durbin's which are the
Dragonfli
Oct 2013
#183
How is that supposed to apply to Durbin's view that we should cut SS, because Baby Boomers?
Dragonfli
Oct 2013
#188
Durbin is worthless as a Democrat, so far to the right that he wants to slash
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#110
National security dictates millions of seniors be thrown into poverty by cutting social security
indepat
Oct 2013
#134
BS! Raise the ceiling on SS. Problem solved. Raise taxes on wealthy to balance biudget
on point
Oct 2013
#139
The baby boomers paid extra into the Social Security Trust Fund since the 1980s to cover their
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#142
Bingo! More assumptions than I could imagine to get to that "conclusion" about what he said
George II
Oct 2013
#193
Durbin seems clear enough in this statement: ""Social Security is gonna run out of money in 20 years
leveymg
Oct 2013
#194
Ah, I see the admission is that Democrats are NOT going to have to "cave on SS cuts". Excellent!
George II
Oct 2013
#235
No one should be surprised about this. Dem leadership has been discussing this for years.
DCBob
Oct 2013
#209
The Social Security Trust Fund is invested in Treasury Bonds and the problem is
Samantha
Oct 2013
#227
The American people are Creditors of the Fed Govt, along with China, Japan and whoever else
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#237
I agree that the failure of the Government to fulfill its obligations to the SS Trust Fund would be
Samantha
Oct 2013
#243
Uh, wait.. a "25% benefit cut in 20 years".. yeah, who cares if SS is cut then instead of now, huh?
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#245
No REAL Democrat will ever offer or give in to a reduction in SS. I won't vote for anyone who does.
L0oniX
Oct 2013
#264
Sen Durbin is proof that all Democrats are not friends of the 99%. No cuts is the line we draw. nm
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#265
I'm still waiting to find out why it would be hunky dory to do a 25% benefit cut in 20 years.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#270
Why is there nothing in this comment about the effect of serious job creation on the SS Trust Fund
FogerRox
Oct 2013
#284
I have discussed the impact of new jobs on social security in other threads in the past
AndyA
Oct 2013
#290