Work begins on Calif. bullet train, locals angry

[rufus dog]

60. Wow, where to even start, so many errors in your post

1. It was the El Toro Marine base which is about six mile southeast of the Tustin Marine Base.
2. The defined plan was bullshit, it was to leave JWA open AND use the existing runways at El Toro.

So the plan called for two operating airports less than 10 miles apart, which appears to be a lame idea. But it gets better, the existing runway at El Toro points directly at JWA so planes would take off directly into the path of takeoff and landings at JWA.

Now the Newport Beach crowd tried to lie up a storm and claim the planes could take off the other way, towards the foothills, with a prevailing tailwind, on a runway that slanted uphill. Their proof?.... jets did it all the time there,.... Fighter Jets!

Basically a pile of bullshit equal to tea baggers, and like the baggers the were exposed. They were so enamored with their own bullshit that they proposed a test using a wide variety of commercial air crafts and off duty pilots. The County ponied up millions and over a weekend they were going to have about 25 takeoff and landings to prove airplanes could takeoff towards a mountain, with a tailwind, using a runway with an uphill slant.

I believe three or five planes actually took off. Because the pilots refused to take off, uphill, with a tailwind, into the foothills, even with empty planes. Go Figure!

So the proposed airport was far from a logical choice. In fact the proposed plan was so illogical that even with the backing of Newport Beach money and the Orange County Register, the voters rejected it after the joke of a test that any logical person had concluded prior to the test.