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RobertEarl

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122. He has turned totaly anti-nuclear

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:51 PM

Oct 2013

That is why he is no longer in office.

Fukushima has scared the holy-hell out of him because he had all the facts right in front of him. He almost called for Tokyo to be evacuated.

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Sailor: “After we left Japan, it felt as if the ocean itself was dead” [View all] kpete Oct 2013 OP

holy shit... wundermaus Oct 2013 #1

And, apparently, the fear is so chervilant Oct 2013 #3

I've been called dense on DU, and that fine..... Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #12

This seems to be concerning all aspects; garbage, overfishing and potential radiation damage. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #15

the only thing the article did not touch on is acidification questionseverything Oct 2013 #94

Wrong... wundermaus Oct 2013 #24

See, that's why I've been called dense on DU, and that's just fine..... Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #27

I concede the article focuses on the debris... wundermaus Oct 2013 #33

I started my anti-nuclear activitsm fifty years ago Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #45

Fact: For 30 months, radiocative water leaking into Pacific RobertEarl Oct 2013 #46

The elevated levels measured on the West Coast have only been found in bluefin tuna... Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #49

Compared to bananas, again? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #50

The "banana/potassium equivilent" has been debunked as bad science newthinking Oct 2013 #88

"Will not tolerate opinions stated as fact"... wundermaus Oct 2013 #48

They DID find plenty of fish, actually NickB79 Oct 2013 #61

"...that IS fine" chervilant Oct 2013 #54

I should clarify the banana comment to you nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #25

Correct, like when you told us the west coast milk supply was just days away from becoming poisoned? Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #32

What does this mean? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #47

It means nadinbrzezinski told us to rush out and buy aseptic milk because.... Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #51

There was found elevated radionuclides level in milk RobertEarl Oct 2013 #52

So what? People still drank milk, and people are still fine. Sirveri Oct 2013 #53

"So what? People still drank milk, and people are still fine." greiner3 Oct 2013 #76

You would have a point if the half life of I-131 wasn't 8 days. Sirveri Oct 2013 #109

Your data, please RobertEarl Oct 2013 #114

You know what a safe level of radiation is? ZERO Demeter Oct 2013 #86

Actually, most of Ukraine was less exposed than much of Europe newthinking Oct 2013 #89

I am well aware of where the radiation went Demeter Oct 2013 #90

Indeed, Demeter! Indeed! K&R! KoKo Oct 2013 #97

Flat out false, you absorb radiation from natural sources all day long. Sirveri Oct 2013 #108

Your opinion, Sirveri, is: No Harm Done? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #110

Yes, I-131 was found... at 1000 times lower levels than during the 1960's. Sirveri Oct 2013 #111

Just your opinion then? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #113

There is plenty of real data, it supports my position. Sirveri Oct 2013 #115

Ok. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #116

That report says nothing about human health effects. Sirveri Oct 2013 #117

Health effects RobertEarl Oct 2013 #121

Maybe those scientists are ignored because the data doesn't correspond to their conclusions? Sirveri Oct 2013 #127

They evacuated the humans from Chernobyl RobertEarl Oct 2013 #128

No I don't work in the industry. Sirveri Oct 2013 #130

160,000 evacuated from Fukushima RobertEarl Oct 2013 #132

I meant on the West Coast. I live here, not in Japan. Sirveri Oct 2013 #133

I've read all that crap RobertEarl Oct 2013 #135

reminds me of all those apocolyptic Anime PatrynXX Oct 2013 #18

k n r cui bono Oct 2013 #2

I'm sick to my stomach. NBachers Oct 2013 #4

Me too. kentuck Oct 2013 #5

me too, N BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #11

I just lost my appetite. ffr Oct 2013 #17

Hard not too be. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #30

... nashville_brook Oct 2013 #6

I so wish there could have been pics or video dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #7

At least it would help verify Shivering Jemmy Oct 2013 #9

No kidding... reACTIONary Oct 2013 #31

I'm seeing "ENENews" used as a source more and more Union Scribe Oct 2013 #41

That's not true RobertEarl Oct 2013 #42

They rip off articles then editorialize them Union Scribe Oct 2013 #58

OMG - has this been on the news anywhere? polichick Oct 2013 #8

no because it's just bloggy trash snooper2 Oct 2013 #112

So it's not true? polichick Oct 2013 #118

A bit hyperbolic for sure, but nothing to sneeze at, either. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #10

Outrivalling Chernoble PuraVidaDreamin Oct 2013 #62

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #13

one of my favorite quotes: kpete Oct 2013 #71

That is a good quote, I believe this quote from him seems appropos as well Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #100

K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #14

Bingo! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #21

People who viewed nuclear energy in this way..... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #34

Charlie the Tuna, there, looks like he's shittin' bricks--he doesn't look too happy about that atom! MADem Oct 2013 #37

Cesium 137 bricks. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #43

+ 1,000 Berlum Oct 2013 #65

So true. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #78

There is actually a real name for this phenominon - "Progress Trap" newthinking Oct 2013 #91

A biologist once told me. airplaneman Oct 2013 #16

I'm sure this video will disturb and inform many as it did me. Snarkoleptic Oct 2013 #20

I spoke very early of this nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #28

Some of appreciated your postings, and shrugged of the nuclear apologists. Scuba Oct 2013 #75

Thanks, but the real (at this point also ignorant of the science) nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #84

K&R. Didn't know about various countries' standards for Cesium contamination of foods. Overseas Oct 2013 #68

There have been many a science fiction story written on that theme. zeemike Oct 2013 #22

Exactly. n/t DeSwiss Oct 2013 #35

That is a perfect summation of where our species is. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #79

I don't care if we wipe ourselves out. Really, we've shown humans are incapable of Flaxbee Oct 2013 #104

There's going to be a huge Phlem Oct 2013 #19

I found an article that helps explain 'some' of the ocean dead zones postatomic Oct 2013 #23

Why aren't we shutting down all the reactors...like, yesterday? Zorra Oct 2013 #26

Fuku Plume may already be on west coast? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #29

Link to discussion about Fuku Plume RobertEarl Oct 2013 #39

What can 28,000 rubber duckies lost at sea teach us about our oceans? CrispyQ Oct 2013 #80

It certainly would be interesting to recreate that 20 years later and see where they end up davidpdx Oct 2013 #106

Some one at work, that goes to Tokyo frequently... SoapBox Oct 2013 #36

She's right, that is stupid. Union Scribe Oct 2013 #40

The former PM of Japan, says otherwise RobertEarl Oct 2013 #44

Anyone can SAY anything. Union Scribe Oct 2013 #55

Let me just throw this out there: And I am NOT a "pro nuker". Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #57

Here's a recent article for you. proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #99

Naoto Kan was kicked out of office because of perceived bumbling Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #120

He has turned totaly anti-nuclear RobertEarl Oct 2013 #122

No, he's no longer in office because he did not take charge of things Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #123

Well... RobertEarl Oct 2013 #124

Once again, Kan was not dumped because he became anti-nuke Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #125

Abe is money bags RobertEarl Oct 2013 #126

Let me ask you this Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #129

Well, you didn't answer my question RobertEarl Oct 2013 #131

Kan would not still be in office if he were pro-nuke Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #134

Is Abe a liar? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #136

Oh, good grief Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #137

It is perfectly safe in Tokyo Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #119

That is where our salmon fry go to grow up tavalon Oct 2013 #38

The oceans have been dying for decades now NickB79 Oct 2013 #56

I am not sorry MFM008 Oct 2013 #59

The fish weren't missing, the author states exactly where they went NickB79 Oct 2013 #60

that's in the area not poisoned by the tsunami magical thyme Oct 2013 #70

How depressing CountAllVotes Oct 2013 #63

From post #16: CrispyQ Oct 2013 #82

The ocean is broken Berlum Oct 2013 #64

And it's us... everywhere I have dived in the past few years, you can see the insane explosion JCMach1 Oct 2013 #66

Experienced divers I've talked to say that things are deteriorating rapidly in the Caribbean hatrack Oct 2013 #93

Are we seeing a collapse? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #101

The oceans are very, very resilient... so, often you see things that look like a rolling collapse JCMach1 Oct 2013 #103

The acidification really worries me nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #105

CO2, oil, Global Warming JCMach1 Oct 2013 #107

Nature has tremendous resilience, given half a chance. hatrack Oct 2013 #138

Exactly... sigh JCMach1 Oct 2013 #139

I saw the jellyfish and reef bleaching even in Belize JCMach1 Oct 2013 #102

FUKUSHIMA IS HERE...... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #67

Why no pictures? seveneyes Oct 2013 #69

This is absolutely tragic devastating news... It's sickening what we'd done to the ocean. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #72

Wind is cheaper than nuclear, cheaper still when u add in a few disasters. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #73

Lots of jumping to conclusions on this thread. Brickbat Oct 2013 #74

let's not forget all the toxic waste dumped into the oceans Bennyboy Oct 2013 #77

Don't worry. Go back to sleep. agent46 Oct 2013 #81

That's so depressing. NealK Oct 2013 #83

as long as bananas can be used heaven05 Oct 2013 #85

Bananas became a running gag nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #87

Lets not forget all the oil spills around the world... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #92

So Damned Depressing... WillyT Oct 2013 #95

I find this too sad to think about............nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #96

If this disturbs you and gives you a sense of urgency agent46 Oct 2013 #98