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joshcryer

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103. I think the data release was PSYOPS.

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:04 AM

Oct 2013

I think intelligence officials realized that said data was going to be risk prone. And I think they let it happen on purpose. They determined, correctly, that apathy would be the main result, as well as determined that if they put in enough good stuff (stuff that was radicated in every release, like how many terrorists were caught and under what circumstances, etc), then the people would shrug and it would force the media to be careful with the dumps.

All we've got out of it is continued apathy, our turn into the UK is gradual, but happening.

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Have we forgotten the NSA or do people just not give a flying fuck anymore? [View all] hootinholler Oct 2013 OP

Meh. Tempest in a teapot. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #1

Speak for yourself. And to answer the OP, no most of us did NOT forget sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #6

I *am* speaking for myself - and I'm not in the minority. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #10

You are in the minority Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #29

Meh. If you told those same Americans what they think about BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #48

It still is not true when you say you are not in the minority. You are. Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #51

In polls? Okay. If that will help you sleep better at night, more power to you. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #52

I choose "leave it." chervilant Oct 2013 #86

You sound like Spiro T. Agnew talking about his "Silent Majority" leveymg Oct 2013 #34

Stay classy, leveymg. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #49

Isn't "meh" and "we live in the real world" more than just a bit passive-aggressive? leveymg Oct 2013 #65

Seriously, is *that* you're excuse for lobbing a personal attack on me?? BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #66

I don't need an excuse for taking exception to your initial attack on the OP leveymg Oct 2013 #72

Your *subject line is not all there is to your post. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #75

When you make condescending remarks, you should expect third-party responses in kind. leveymg Oct 2013 #85

People who express concern about the NSA Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #104

Corporations are using this information against our best interests. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #60

One more reality based tool agent46 Oct 2013 #97

Oh, baby!.......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #59

LOL, South American and European countries have their own version of the NSA. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #76

i am tired of op posts like this. no one forgot anything but roguevalley Oct 2013 #46

To be fair to me, I never claimed anyone forgot anything. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #47

That's the little Limbaugh term-"Tempest in a teapot". Enthusiast Oct 2013 #58

That's complete bullshit. The idiom I used in this discussion is apropos. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #67

Thanks for clarifying. sibelian Oct 2013 #64

Which one? BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #69

oh that's why stupidicus Oct 2013 #99

I sure as hell still care, hootinholler BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #2

I wish I could share your confidence hootinholler Oct 2013 #5

Well, to be frank BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #11

The System never does a 180 on a dime. The program is so big it will take a while, but the issue is leveymg Oct 2013 #35

Doing my part to see a large crowd hootinholler Oct 2013 #37

Applause. leveymg Oct 2013 #42

What's the NSA? jsr Oct 2013 #3

Pfft! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #61

Wish I could go... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #4

Not while we own it seveneyes Oct 2013 #7

Totally! My tinfoil hat is telling me 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #8

I'll go ahead and assume this is some form of sarcasm. n/t hootinholler Oct 2013 #13

You're right of course 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #20

Obama said there's no spying on Americans leftstreet Oct 2013 #9

You do know it's against the law for the NSA to spy on Americans, right? randome Oct 2013 #12

Yeah, that's kind of the point hootinholler Oct 2013 #15

I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. randome Oct 2013 #17

ROTFLMAO. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #62

It's against the law for the NSA to spy on Americans, right? ehcross Oct 2013 #96

I still give a fuck. k&r cali Oct 2013 #14

I don't think they've "forgotten"; it's just not a priority. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #16

Meh. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #18

If you had looked at the links hootinholler Oct 2013 #39

I care. I can't attend, but have donated. I thought there would be events on the West Coast deurbano Oct 2013 #19

Any problems we had with the NSA are being addressed. mwrguy Oct 2013 #21

I place my trust in information hootinholler Oct 2013 #22

You know.... RichGirl Oct 2013 #23

I might drop by on Saturday. -nt- DireStrike Oct 2013 #24

Big K&R! I'll be there in spirit. riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #25

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #26

Sadly, I don't think the average person cares. For many (most?) DUers, Skip Intro Oct 2013 #27

Hand them over? Too many do not even realize they have any real rights. RC Oct 2013 #31

Oh yeah, you're right of course. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #36

Anyone who thinks their stuff is private online or on air waves is ignorant.This crap has been going judesedit Oct 2013 #28

On line Banking? Buying something on line with a credit card? RC Oct 2013 #32

part of the grave damage caused by the radical right who dominate the U.S. House of Representatives Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #30

The gov't knows everything about us, though we're innocent; while we know little about them. snot Oct 2013 #33

Sounds good, yeah some here would love to just move Rex Oct 2013 #38

Why don't Republicans shut down the government over this? Chrom Oct 2013 #40

Welcome to DU hootinholler Oct 2013 #41

People realize if we didn't have the NSA we would have zero intel in this cyber-era and that would CK_John Oct 2013 #43

I disagree. But they have convinced you you need them so it worked on you. n-t Logical Oct 2013 #70

If we didn't have the NSA we would have zero intel in this cyber-era. ehcross Oct 2013 #89

k Go Vols Oct 2013 #102

sadly, i could ask that same question for a bunch of issues Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #44

Well, we can't play Where in the World is Edward Snowden anymore NuclearDem Oct 2013 #45

We can't play Where in the World is Edward Snowden anymore ehcross Oct 2013 #90

we're also celebrating a budget with more"austerity" han the original "Ryan Budget" Doctor_J Oct 2013 #50

Do you have useful concrete proposals for reform? Or are you promoting the usual libertarian struggle4progress Oct 2013 #53

I am so glad I scrolled down to your post. You helped me maintain my composure. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #77

Oh, Kitty, don't hold back hootinholler Oct 2013 #81

Hey Hootie, I am tired of bickering with people I mostly agree with. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #84

Well then hootinholler Oct 2013 #87

You going to bring a sign? KittyWampus Oct 2013 #100

I haven't decided yet hootinholler Oct 2013 #106

Why do you think this is about "bashing" the President? hootinholler Oct 2013 #79

"people just not give a flying fuck anymore", or some of us never did. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #54

In UK most people are just, not surprised, basically. And very apathetic. Ghost Dog Oct 2013 #55

it is this level of passive acceptance that I find really scary... Electric Monk Oct 2013 #56

I'm not a bored white person, so I don't give a fuck about the NSA. sagat Oct 2013 #57

I care. A lot. Please keep posting about it. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #63

"Our Team" won the shutdown standoff, quit trying to ruin it!!!! TransitJohn Oct 2013 #68

Not to sound snarky but; what can I do to change the situation? Taitertots Oct 2013 #71

Spying on Americans is cool with the new moderate Democrats. Party First! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #73

Exactly - and it is tres amusing to see the lame attempts to marginalize. djean111 Oct 2013 #78

My plan is to wait until a repuke is elected president, then act outraged and shocked about this hughee99 Oct 2013 #82

Excellent plan. I am gonna go a step further and become anti-war. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #83

The list of things that keep me awake at night Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #74

No, just once again the stunning vileness of the fugpublicans has deferred other issues. Nt. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #80

Wish I could be there with you, suffragette Oct 2013 #88

We can only panic about one thing at a time. nt. rrneck Oct 2013 #91

FLYING FUCK RULES THE DAY! But...yes...many of us care about this. KoKo Oct 2013 #92

KNR DirkGently Oct 2013 #93

Nope, won't bother with a lot here though nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #94

I didn't forget BUT JOBS for my family are of most concern to me. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #95

Election day is Tues. Nov. 5, and right on schedule, there's a hate-fest in DC the weekend before. ucrdem Oct 2013 #98

Unfortunately the American people have been trained by.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #101

I think the data release was PSYOPS. joshcryer Oct 2013 #103

Americans have moved onto the next shiny object AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #105