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jeff47

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143. Not sure that's a good plan

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:09 PM

Oct 2013

One of the major benefits from discussing issues on a forum like this is finding the holes in your logic and beliefs. It's very helpful for others to spot these holes or point out other edge cases to mature our political thoughts.

For example, "No guns allowed anywhere for any reason" may be a lovely starting point. But there are legitimate cases where that is not a good idea. And until someone else points out these holes and edge cases, one can't mature politically.

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If you don't think there is a strong concerted effort to Troll liberal sites like DU..... [View all] trumad Oct 2013 OP

I mentioned this in another thread Cirque du So-What Oct 2013 #1

208,859 user registrations and 63,853,352 posts since 2001 trumad Oct 2013 #2

They should get a uniform... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #82

There have been obvious attempts on several websites and in the media BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #3

This may be the case with other subjects as well.....Fukushima and global warming for starters. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #32

There you go again, Joe RobertEarl Oct 2013 #39

Just calling things as I see them. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #52

Nah, not wrong RobertEarl Oct 2013 #57

Clearly, you fail to see my point. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #63

Ah yes, the "Hamsher/Greenwald" bash again LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #137

Undoubtably Joe Caretha Oct 2013 #44

I suppose you're not a fan of mine..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #58

Fan??? Caretha Oct 2013 #66

"Time to use a new handle"... SidDithers Oct 2013 #85

Not sure I see the problem here, Sid. You and I usually see eye to eye on most things. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #90

Sorry, I wasn't clear... SidDithers Oct 2013 #104

No problem. Thanks for clarifying. =) eom AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #106

You've spawned a very special subthread... hunter Oct 2013 #71

Well, obviously, there were a few who took issue with what I said. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #89

I've seen you disrupt, Joe. That's the problem here. Th1onein Oct 2013 #107

Mm-hmm....sure you have..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #119

Why you make that inference from my comment is your business, of course. Th1onein Oct 2013 #155

"I'm just stating a fact. Deal with it." LOL. As if..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #158

I'll leave you believing that you are right. Welcome to my ignore list. Th1onein Oct 2013 #161

Just read what the actual scientists are saying. D23MIURG23 Oct 2013 #115

You really missed the point with this one, I'm sorry. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #120

Ironically, you end with a quote that doesn't come from a scientist muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #133

Yes, DU is often trolled by "climate change concern trolls" CreekDog Oct 2013 #151

Typical of you, unfortunately. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #160

You mean like, oh I don't know, trashing unions? Union Scribe Oct 2013 #135

Ahhhhh... So much makes sense now!!! Squinch Oct 2013 #4

Read through the conservative cave site and it was eye opening dkf Oct 2013 #5

Really? Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #29

They knew more about people on this site than I did. dkf Oct 2013 #34

Yes it is Caretha Oct 2013 #46

Stalkers. That's what they are. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #129

Yep, I do that from time to time. We must all be really important and a grave threat for RKP5637 Oct 2013 #61

It truly is *that* screwed up. They could give Free Republic a run for their money.....nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #64

Ugh, you made me look. Warpy Oct 2013 #108

Lol. Wasn't that amazingly dedicated of them? dkf Oct 2013 #110

The idiot using dialup to avoid detection... TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #6

Who here is defending Fox News? Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #7

That's my reaction ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #33

I know who. Coyotl Oct 2013 #117

GOP talking points don't get much play here leftstreet Oct 2013 #8

yes, they do get play here. Whisp Oct 2013 #19

Thank you and Amen. They're also going after Hillary. Does anyone remember the video of the class okaawhatever Oct 2013 #59

It's 'voting DemocratIC' not 'voting Democrat' n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #73

You are moving into "No true scotsman " territory there... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #83

Perhaps I should say, "going after Hillary in a manner inconsistent with a member of the okaawhatever Oct 2013 #86

I'm sorry, but I consider myself a "true" Democrat, and I won't vote for Hillary. Th1onein Oct 2013 #111

You got it. And they usually come from folks that howl the loudest when compared to the Tea Party Number23 Oct 2013 #68

+100 nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #75

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2013 #70

I look askance at anyone who insists that "Obama sucks" particularly after his stellar performance MADem Oct 2013 #81

Absolutely Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #109

I refuse to believe anyone still denies this Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #9

I Grok you Caretha Oct 2013 #48

Of course there is, I watch it happen daily on this site! Rex Oct 2013 #10

Being on MIRT has been a real eye opener Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #11

It's easy to identify the 8-10 new trolls/day who get banned right away. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #14

+1 SunSeeker Oct 2013 #30

+1, n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #65

+1 Hekate Oct 2013 #99

It is true, there are some that get through Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #116

+1 Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #112

I just can't imagine being like that deutsey Oct 2013 #131

As expected from an Australian extortionist who tag teamed with a Korean cult leader blm Oct 2013 #12

What Korean cult leader? Reverend Moon? I have to learn my tea bag history. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #113

Rev Moon, mind control asset for CIA, using theology for political goals. blm Oct 2013 #134

Wow, I had no idea Rev Moon was one of the architects of the current oppressive economic state. I am okaawhatever Oct 2013 #146

Rev Moon crowd the second coming of Jesus by Congress critters. Rex Oct 2013 #148

I believe it trumad rbrnmw Oct 2013 #13

I have been here for 11 years and remember when every new person was given a personal efhmc Oct 2013 #47

I've often wondered StrayKat Oct 2013 #15

It's only logical. Cha Oct 2013 #16

trumad thinks I'm a troll cali Oct 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Whisp Oct 2013 #20

ahh Cali trumad Oct 2013 #21

And Therein Lies The Problem... Take A Principled Stance Against A Dem Proposal... WillyT Oct 2013 #22

omg leftstreet Oct 2013 #24

I believe I was recently accused of being a troll onlyadream Oct 2013 #40

All I Can Say Is... Stay Strong... There Is A Knee-Jerk Contingent That Swarms Anything... WillyT Oct 2013 #42

were your poor results tech problems questionseverything Oct 2013 #141

Cost problems onlyadream Oct 2013 #154

my household is in a similar boat questionseverything Oct 2013 #157

He does? Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #28

and I'm not alone in what I think of you. cali Oct 2013 #122

^This^ LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #138

I know Caretha Oct 2013 #49

*sigh* nobody ever calls me a troll. hunter Oct 2013 #80

Lulz. Lulz. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #92

Jesus, hardly a week goes by when I'm not called one. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #103

that's because you post that gun control is Jim Crow CreekDog Oct 2013 #152

Well, gun-control is based in the laws prevalent in the South after... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #163

I dont think you are a troll.. I just think you're wrong more than you're right scheming daemons Oct 2013 #130

just volunteer for the MIRT team like I did last spring and you will be shocked... TeamPooka Oct 2013 #23

It doesn't surprise me at all. GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #25

Yep, they all read pretty much from the same script, even ones you meet locally in person. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #72

A thorough SysAdmin Hutzpa Oct 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueJazz Oct 2013 #27

MIRT does a good job of axing them here on DU dballance Oct 2013 #31

Some people seem to think... iandhr Oct 2013 #35

And then there are those of us who think anyone who agrees us is a troll Fumesucker Oct 2013 #37

I agree with you. Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #43

YEAH!! n/t TygrBright Oct 2013 #56

I imagine the OP implied that it''s not policy disagreements that are being referred to... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #145

Some political forum sites ... JEFF9K Oct 2013 #36

DU would be a much quieter place indeed if such a system were instigated Fumesucker Oct 2013 #38

That might screen out me, too. kentauros Oct 2013 #41

Not sure that's a good plan jeff47 Oct 2013 #143

Bad logic would be screened out ... JEFF9K Oct 2013 #156

Still not worth the trade jeff47 Oct 2013 #159

Trolls colbertforpresident Oct 2013 #45

Being on MIRT I have seen many trolls that might have been apart of this. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #50

A lot of these clowns are on YouTube.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #51

You wouldn't *believe* just how *many* of these jokers, morons, and assholes I've had to deal with.. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #55

On the bright side it's probably the same 12 guys. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #87

Sometimes, yeah, but not always, though......you'd be surprised. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #100

i noticed that too... madrchsod Oct 2013 #96

They're so desperate to fake their majority status that these assholes show up in cooking forums. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #98

FOX NEWS LIES LIKE THE DOGS THEY ARE!!!! nolabear Oct 2013 #53

"We did not - smirk - have sockpuppet sex with that blog, Mr. & Ms. DU. Smirk." - Fox Propaganda (R) Berlum Oct 2013 #54

I've been juror on quite a few 1st post and last time ' Hide it ' orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #60

I agree I have seen trolls on here gopiscrap Oct 2013 #62

They're on MotherJones, too. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #95

I should be worried by this, WHY??? madinmaryland Oct 2013 #67

It seems the characters in this story were all about defending Faux Noise� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #69

We just tombstoned a new one that had to criticize Obama for helping a fainting woman. Coyotl Oct 2013 #74

Ha Ha LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #140

There are definitely trolls and stink bugs on this site. Pisces Oct 2013 #76

And I betcha at least a few of these are self-proclaimed anti-BOGers..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #91

Even sports message boards are sometimes infested with this scum. Elwood P Dowd Oct 2013 #77

The O-Zone off topic forum. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #123

Those people seriously need to get a life. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #78

I have certainly seen a *lot* of anti-Hillary posts here. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #79

no shit.... madrchsod Oct 2013 #84

explain why... brooklynite Oct 2013 #88

Because it is their job. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #124

Because they can't predict which one will grow to major importance. jeff47 Oct 2013 #144

I'm sure there are trolls, paid and unpaid, but suspicion of trolls has created a siege mentality... Silent3 Oct 2013 #93

Very true, sadly.....it *has* happened. Even I've fallen for it a few times.....=( AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #97

THAT is the main objective, and it is nothing new.. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #105

shit we have seen a lot of them come and go madrchsod Oct 2013 #94

I remember that poster. It was a great handle though wasn't it? Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #118

Well, if the Koch Brothers are giving away FREE BEER to be anti-ACA... factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #101

What I like are the thread hijack tag teams NBachers Oct 2013 #102

LOL, if you doubt we have trolls then just scan back over the past couple of weeks. winter is coming Oct 2013 #114

And how many of these disruptors claimed to be anti-BOG? Frankly, I'd suspect a LOT of 'em. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #121

There were also a number Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #126

There are different kinds of trolls, as anyone who has hung out here for a while can attest. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #125

It's been clear to me for awhile.. ananda Oct 2013 #127

The blog doesn't say what you think it says muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #128

I've thought enough about it. LWolf Oct 2013 #132

a Big Tent Democratic Party is not in the interest of the Conservative agenda reddread Oct 2013 #136

I would make the same argument myself. Gobama! =) eom AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #147

plenty of irony in your diet I see reddread Oct 2013 #149

WTF is this about? eom AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #150

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #139

There may be an effort, but that paranoia thing runs right here to be sure. LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #142

I feel your pain, LaydeeBug. It's happened to me as well.....as you might be able to see here. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #162

I remember when DU was overrun with new Kerry supporters Skip Intro Oct 2013 #153