General Discussion

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

3. I'm sure the perpetrators of the murders will be able to explain at their trials...oh, wait.

Reply to cali (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:30 PM

Oct 2013

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

135 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

The most grotesque and blatantly illegal aspect of drone killing: Double Tapping [View all] cali Oct 2013 OP

The Double Tap is pretty indefensible. el_bryanto Oct 2013 #1

well that and terrorizing entire regions of countries cali Oct 2013 #4

Making more terrorists along the way. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #6

Maybe not. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #49

There was huge opposition to drone warfare from Democrats going all the sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #19

Thank you OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2013 #71

Obama not only signs off on the drones, he vastly expanded their use Ace Acme Oct 2013 #131

I am of the opinion many are just anti-republican. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #109

Our democratic president joked about drones. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #115

Yes, I remember that and was surprised that many of those who were outraged sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #119

I don't know how we get that behemoth under control. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #121

Fantastic Video! Thank You! Ace Acme Oct 2013 #132

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2013 #2

I'm sure the perpetrators of the murders will be able to explain at their trials...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #3

They get awards for it now don't they? Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #8

Yes, indeed. woo me with science Oct 2013 #11

The Pentagon cancelled it last April cali Oct 2013 #14

"Sort of" being the operative words. woo me with science Oct 2013 #18

Hey! At least the desk-warrior can get a medal now! WinkyDink Oct 2013 #5

Eric Rudolph used that technique Fumesucker Oct 2013 #7

Despicable. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #9

Targeting first responders. Also targeting children. woo me with science Oct 2013 #10

Best part? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #59

I don't think it's so much that the victims' religion dflprincess Oct 2013 #88

so is there a reason you just started 2 threads about drones instead of one? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #12

because she hates America Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #13

Ahem. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #15

are you fucking shitting me with this bullcrap?! frylock Oct 2013 #64

yes. I'm angry over atrocities committed by our government. cali Oct 2013 #16

I see. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #17

so none of this troubles you at all? cali Oct 2013 #21

it's troubling. but then I read this Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #26

and the Pakistan and Afghanistan governments and people are requesting this? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #27

yes, the Pakistan Govt gave permission plus has a lot of control over it JI7 Oct 2013 #33

there is not a shred of evidence that "really" the Pakistani government approves of the strikes the Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #42

Other than multiple news reports and the consensus of everyone in foreign policy circles? Recursion Oct 2013 #98

yeah claims by a hostile Indian media of secret reports and claims of secret deals secret Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #100

Sigh Recursion Oct 2013 #103

a simple google search "Pakistan condemns drone strikes" - can show what is a provable official Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #105

The Pakistani government requested it Recursion Oct 2013 #70

can you provide some link or reference to where the Pakistani government requested drone strikes? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #94

Sure Recursion Oct 2013 #95

again could you provide some evidence that the Pakistani government supports the use of drone strike Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #96

Sure thing Recursion Oct 2013 #97

claims of secret deals is not the same as evidence - either way there is certainly no evidence that Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #99

Well hell, the US government doesn't "broadly support" airstrikes. This is everybody's least Recursion Oct 2013 #102

shoot and cry - we hate it when people make us kill them Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #104

So "kill them over there before they kill us over here"? bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #30

"Most of the people who have been killed in the strikes were militants" Maedhros Oct 2013 #37

Sometimes the wrong individuals are targeted. Rick says: MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #43

Why do you say that? zipplewrath Oct 2013 #53

"They have to be dealt with" How does murdering hundreds of children "deal" with them? n/t jtuck004 Oct 2013 #68

So what exactly is the criteria for justifying murdering a person and those in close proximity? rhett o rick Oct 2013 #118

agree n/t Paper Roses Oct 2013 #56

And thank you for doing that. zeemike Oct 2013 #65

There are multiple threads about any number of subjects. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #23

is there some reason you're changing the subject instead of responding to it? stupidicus Oct 2013 #34

LOL, why do you care? Defending drones? nt Logical Oct 2013 #52

I hope dozens more are started. This is important. morningfog Oct 2013 #87

It's called a "Double Tap". nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #93

Are you in this thread to discuss the subject or what? nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #116

Used to do something similar in the Navy back in the 70's and 80's. Kaleva Oct 2013 #20

are you defending this? cali Oct 2013 #22

If the purpose of the 2nd missile is to be a backup for the 1st... Kaleva Oct 2013 #25

The SOp of the entire U.S. Military has been unconscionable for some decades now. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2013 #40

Did you wait long enough between missiles that rescue workers could reach the scene? n/t A Simple Game Oct 2013 #79

Anyone trying to save their shipmates might well be killed by the 2nd Harpoon. Kaleva Oct 2013 #101

Not quite the same. JoeyT Oct 2013 #133

Is it worse than using a cruise missile? A bomb from a fighter? An troop assault? A suicide bomb? maxsolomon Oct 2013 #24

I don't believe the U.S. has any right whatsoever to bomb cali Oct 2013 #28

Well, we agree that it is not a "War" in the legal sense maxsolomon Oct 2013 #31

As someone said earlier BobbyBoring Oct 2013 #60

I think Muslim Terrorists get to be "real" terrorists, too. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #80

as long as the Pakistan and Afghanistan governments and people want us there carrying out these Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #29

And Yemen. don't forget Yemen cali Oct 2013 #32

if the US was poor, didn't have the biggest military and you had a bunch of mcveighs JI7 Oct 2013 #35

you are under the impression that most Pakistanis support these strikes? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #39

So a "mcveigh" lives next door to you bullsnarfle Oct 2013 #129

You are begging the question that American troops MUST otherwise engage the "enemy" Maedhros Oct 2013 #41

+1 G_j Oct 2013 #54

No, I believe that it is a choice, as you do. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #82

"Ending the war", ? What war? Who specifically are we fighting? What have we authorized our rhett o rick Oct 2013 #117

By using the term War on Terror I'm not saying it's an actual declared-by-congress war. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #125

Authorization to Use Military Force... means WAR ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #127

I couldn't agree more stupidicus Oct 2013 #36

Winning the hearts and minds. Orrex Oct 2013 #38

there's actually an op up now trying to make that claim. cali Oct 2013 #45

Sixteen-Year-Old Malala Yousafzai Warns Obama: �Drone Attacks Are Fueling Terrorism� Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #44

+1 Thank you for reposting this. woo me with science Oct 2013 #47

If a crowd of other brown people gather to hear her express such views, won't she and the group be Dragonfli Oct 2013 #76

She is one remarkable young woman. She's going to change the world. n/t myrna minx Oct 2013 #81

There is no justification for this. Mojo Electro Oct 2013 #46

Other than this, <<"They appear to be targeting those who have come in to help cheapdate Oct 2013 #48

do some research. you can start with the AI report itself cali Oct 2013 #50

Not one of those linked sources cheapdate Oct 2013 #55

do your own research. there's plenty of it, but you want to defend cali Oct 2013 #57

I'm not "defending this heinous policy" cheapdate Oct 2013 #67

They're pretty much ALL civilians dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #90

How anybody can defend this is beyond me. It's unconscionable. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #51

This is execrable! raging moderate Oct 2013 #58

Utterly indefensible. War crime, by any standard. DirkGently Oct 2013 #61

If even on DU, many defend this, I fear there's little hope of cali Oct 2013 #62

Heinous Auggie Oct 2013 #63

The IRA terrorists used to double tap. In some cases bomb victims died waiting for responders. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #66

If this thread has been posted in the Bush years, it would have gotten BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #69

When your Hero has his finger on the trigger warrant46 Oct 2013 #72

"the Republicans are worse" "Big Insurance is your friend--they wouldn't ENSLAVE you!" nt MisterP Oct 2013 #89

true enough. cali Oct 2013 #77

Recommended! H2O Man Oct 2013 #73

What possible objective would be served cheapdate Oct 2013 #74

"In almost every way it compromises our strategic mission in the region." correct, we need to stop. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #78

Friends, familiy, associates dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #92

Unfortunately, this heinous method of killing is spreading. DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #75

Interesting dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #91

En route... DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #122

This is terrorism and mass murder of the worst kind. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #83

kick woo me with science Oct 2013 #84

this is barbaric... Agony Oct 2013 #85

K&R. Good thread, cali. nt. polly7 Oct 2013 #86

I totally agree with you gopiscrap Oct 2013 #106

Kill a terrorist, create ten more. Kill an innocent, create 100 terrorists. Scuba Oct 2013 #107

That's a claim that can be verified or falsified, so it's at least a good start Recursion Oct 2013 #108

Much of that "Marshall Plan" $$$ warrant46 Oct 2013 #110

And I suspect the same thing would happen if we tried that in Pakistan, too Recursion Oct 2013 #112

I was in Viet-Nam I saw this shit happen warrant46 Oct 2013 #114

actually, it can't. for all your pride on your superior logic cali Oct 2013 #111

True, we did the original Marshall plan *after* devastating the entire continent Recursion Oct 2013 #113

devastating the continent? wtf? and does Hitler and the Reich get any of the cali Oct 2013 #123

Killing civilians is a war crime Generic Other Oct 2013 #120

Deliberately *targeting* civilians is a war-crime ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #128

Reality based? Generic Other Oct 2013 #135

Yeah. I agree. toddwv Oct 2013 #124

This is especially true if there was a specific bigwig there.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #126

We have to kill the rescue workers over there or they'll be rescuing us over here Ace Acme Oct 2013 #130

I wonder if it would be possible to find a first responder that would support programs like this. JoeyT Oct 2013 #134