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JoePhilly

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38. I've been consistent.

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:33 PM

Oct 2013

Disagreed with Bush's use of torture. Glad Obama stopped that.

Agreed with Bush's invasion of Afghanistan. Disagreed when he lost focus there and turned to Iraq. Agreed with Obama returning focus to Afganistan.

Disagreed with Bush's invasion of Iraq. Glad Obama ended that.

Viewed drones as a military method no different than cruise misseles or tanks, or bombs. Would prefer a world where they are unnecessary, but prefer these mechanisms to large scale boots on the ground efforts.

Never hated our government regardless of who was President.

And there is a big difference between "remaining silent", and "stopping to take a breath" from time to time.

But hey ... I'm no FDR.

On Edit: On NSA ... I predicted that once the Patriot Act passed, no President would return that power. That prediction was made long before I had ever heard the name of the current President.

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Remember when we used to get angry about atrocities committed by our Government? [View all] cali Oct 2013 OP

Are you saying President Obama is a war criminal? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #1

No. And I suggest you inform yourself about drones cali Oct 2013 #5

Collateral Damage tecelote Oct 2013 #7

I think the poster was saying that maxsolomon Oct 2013 #14

Actually, that's likely false since the drone attacks will attract more to groups like Al Queda. cui bono Oct 2013 #19

Exactly, the terror attacks don't just come out of the blue. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #28

Sorry, likely true. Immediate American casualties are reduced. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #56

The problem with drones is they make waging war easier than it already is. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #9

I am. Vincardog Oct 2013 #35

Committing war crimes tends to lead that designation, yes. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #36

Hear, hear. woo me with science Oct 2013 #2

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2013 #3

Ah yes, the Pre-bush* years rock Oct 2013 #4

I have thousands of topics for things that need change, drones is NOT one of them DontTreadOnMe Oct 2013 #6

Oh, I intend to. How pitiful. cali Oct 2013 #8

You intend to? Good. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #54

this needs attention.enough attention to stop it xiamiam Oct 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Oct 2013 #10

whatever you say. cali Oct 2013 #11

but how many people are really in the position of flip-flopping? hfojvt Oct 2013 #48

I think that is because the US has become, on balance, a state that condones terrorism. PDJane Oct 2013 #12

That was when Republicans were doing it. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #13

Many of us still do but we don't spend 24/7 malaise Oct 2013 #15

and I certainly don't do that, malaise cali Oct 2013 #18

I have to step in here and say that I don't see cali doing that. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #29

the PAkistan Govt doesn't want to be seen as going after Terrorists JI7 Oct 2013 #16

I still get pissed at our countries atrocities. bobGandolf Oct 2013 #17

I can't remember a day you haven't been angry about something related to Obama or the Democrats. tridim Oct 2013 #20

that's because you have an entirely selective memory and cali Oct 2013 #23

Yea, I've seen your "praise the prez" posts. tridim Oct 2013 #30

fail again. I have more than a few threads that straight out praise, tdim cali Oct 2013 #32

That's just super. nt tridim Oct 2013 #33

Are DUers obligated to praise Obama? leftstreet Oct 2013 #73

The problem is WAR. By making it about drones, ecstatic Oct 2013 #21

No. The problem is not war. PDJane Oct 2013 #25

They don't circle the wagons so much as they just look in another direction. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #22

you are trying to suggest that when the Republicans do something wrong we should condemn it and when Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #24

..... cali Oct 2013 #27

Why, that would just be silly. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #31

Why waste a pleasant swoon by opening ones eyes to the idol's misdeeds? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #26

K&R pa28 Oct 2013 #34

Idk, ask the Republicans, they're the only ones that act in such a way. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #37

so the Amnesty International report on drones that was released today is all lies? cali Oct 2013 #40

Who's cheering and circling the bandwagons? JaneyVee Oct 2013 #58

I've been consistent. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #38

and hey, you ignore reality too! cool beans. cali Oct 2013 #41

Actually, I like reailty ... I like its complexity ... its variability ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #49

The reason one needs to post that "I don't hate President Obama" is the same reason that ... 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #39

the reason you ignore the reality of drone strike atrocities cali Oct 2013 #42

Let's not take the bait anymore. Myself included. DevonRex Oct 2013 #53

And once again you overplay a losing hand. In no way do I ignore the reality ... 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #57

you are the one who is making this about obama xiamiam Oct 2013 #68

Ahh shit. I was hoping she would show up to fight her own battle. Or at least long enough ... 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #72

Well said. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #43

It's not about President Obama. Some of you are so wrapped up cali Oct 2013 #44

I don't agree with his stance on marijuana. I think he's on the wrong side of history on that. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #46

Your constant need to attack Obama isn't healthy Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #47

lol. put your mind at rest and stop making things up. cali Oct 2013 #64

This^^^^^^is why you started the thread. To be divisive and start this shit again. DevonRex Oct 2013 #52

All those issues are why I joined here and other places (internet and RealWord) to engage in Dragonfli Oct 2013 #45

Cali, this is divisive. It's too soon. Way too soon. DevonRex Oct 2013 #50

It shouldn't be. What is it to be divided about? TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #61

bs..unity in illusion xiamiam Oct 2013 #69

Still angry after all these decades! Rex Oct 2013 #51

Remember when after the anger and outrage, DU actually had real, Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #55

kick woo me with science Oct 2013 #59

i appreciate your op cali questionseverything Oct 2013 #60

Obama took us to war under false pretenses? Martin Eden Oct 2013 #62

I said nothing of the kind and it's utterly contemptible to suggest I did. cali Oct 2013 #63

Pardon me, but you did imply exactly that. Martin Eden Oct 2013 #65

You most certainly are NOT pardoned cali Oct 2013 #70

That's OK, because I pardon you ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #71

Some of us are still angry about atrocities committed in our name. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #66