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wandy

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65. OK. You know that old thing about going to war with..............

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:56 PM

Oct 2013

the army you have, not necessarily the army you want?
You go to war with the leadership you have. Not necessary the leadership you want.
Like Obama inherited Iraq, Johnson inherited Vietnam.
That mess got underway during Eisenhower. More or less unfinished business left over from the Korean war.
Could JFK have handled it better? For good or ill, we can never know. My guess would be that JFK would have but then and again.......

Ok, Johnson was an SOB. A loudmouthed, more,more,more, bully.
Now imagine how LBJ would have delt with Ted Cruz.

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Which former president do you admire? [View all] quinnox Oct 2013 OP

Definitely not FDR. I learned yesterday on DU that he's nothing but a bigot cali Oct 2013 #1

heh quinnox Oct 2013 #3

they did bring up some good points that "in the moment"...future great presidents aren't seen as Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #4

uh, calling him a bigot and the rest of what that post said cali Oct 2013 #9

if you don't understand that was sarcasm....then I can't help you Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #10

bwahahahahahahahahahaha. cali Oct 2013 #13

you truly believe Cali_Democrat thinks FDR was a bigot? it was in response to the thread(s) Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #14

it was crystal fucking clear that that *person* meant every word cali Oct 2013 #21

ok Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #25

we had some here declare PBO the "greatest President ever" 2 weeks after his first inauguration DrDan Oct 2013 #7

Thank God! If someone else had gotten in first with a gratuitous back-handed slap at the President - 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #41

It was a backhanded slap- just not at the President, dear. cali Oct 2013 #50

Heh. +1 truebluegreen Oct 2013 #55

WHEW, I'm back to "dear". I was terrified that I might be relegated to one of your lesser ... 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #63

Um, he despised Native Americans. joshcryer Oct 2013 #76

Lincoln, Wilson, both Roosevelts, Truman, Clinton Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #2

Respect more than admire, I guess. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #5

"Jimeh" Carter (nm) Rambis Oct 2013 #6

I love, admire and respect Jimmy Carter. broiles Oct 2013 #17

I LOVE Jimmy Carter etherealtruth Oct 2013 #67

FDR jwirr Oct 2013 #8

Franklin Roosevelt. nt Raine Oct 2013 #11

Jimmy Carter- ruffburr Oct 2013 #12

I like Carter as well davidpdx Oct 2013 #84

FDR, Carter, Johnson. 1-Old-Man Oct 2013 #15

Jmmy Carter for all the correct reasons...LBJ for some of what he accomplished... Tikki Oct 2013 #16

I have been a strong supporter of LBJ as one of the greatest rurallib Oct 2013 #71

Same here get the red out Oct 2013 #78

Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln and Carter Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Oct 2013 #19

FDR. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #20

Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, and the Roosevelt's. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #22

Well I would take FDR but I just read somewhere that he LITERALLY had blood dripping from his hands. leeroysphitz Oct 2013 #23

heh heh quinnox Oct 2013 #27

FDR. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #24

lol. impossible. your cousin just got done saying you loathe the man Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #28

BWHAHAH Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #30

lol quinnox Oct 2013 #29

you had doubts? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #32

When someone self-deletes their posts, why? Rex Oct 2013 #52

I was essentially asked by a DUer I respect very much to self-delete in a PM Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #64

Theodore Roosevelt. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #26

Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, the Roosevelts, particularly FDR. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #31

John Adams. Opposed to slavery and refused to employ slaves. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #33

I believe we had some great presidents .. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #34

interesting. By the way, quinnox Oct 2013 #38

I know her... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #43

ok, that's what I thought quinnox Oct 2013 #44

Sank yuuuuuu! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #45

heh, don't we all! quinnox Oct 2013 #47

Jimmy Carter riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #35

I like IKE for this 1953 quote: John1956PA Oct 2013 #36

Lot to like about IKE rurallib Oct 2013 #72

Jed Bartlett, but he was fictional, however, Cleita Oct 2013 #37

Looking back, Jed Bartlett was too much a DLC guy... truebluegreen Oct 2013 #56

That was the later Jed Bartlett, when they changed writers. Cleita Oct 2013 #58

You could be right--although I think the incident with that SC Justice was first season. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #59

I was thinking the same thing. Cleita Oct 2013 #62

Even though he is fictional it is hard not to love him as a character davidpdx Oct 2013 #82

mr jimmy carter. heads above the rest. spanone Oct 2013 #39

Garfield arely staircase Oct 2013 #40

Oddly enough Lyndon Johnson. Wish me luck but I'll try to explain........... wandy Oct 2013 #42

LBJ's approach to everything was "more, more, more" Bucky Oct 2013 #53

OK. You know that old thing about going to war with.............. wandy Oct 2013 #65

Of the living presidents, Lincoln only visited with Millard Fillmore before taking office. Bucky Oct 2013 #46

Jimmy Carter nt treestar Oct 2013 #48

Only Carter amongst those still "casting a shadow". Smarmie Doofus Oct 2013 #49

Jimmy Carter Brainstormy Oct 2013 #51

Teddy Roosevelt. denverbill Oct 2013 #54

I strangely like Nixon in a way. bravenak Oct 2013 #57

None of them that are still alive that's for goddamn sure tularetom Oct 2013 #60

Reagan, the Bushes, Nixon and Coolidge WhoIsNumberNone Oct 2013 #61

JFK: For having 21st century vision in the middle of the 20th century. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #66

These guys... Dpm12 Oct 2013 #68

Jimmy Carter llmart Oct 2013 #69

JfK and Jimmy Carter. n/t RebelOne Oct 2013 #70

FDR..a "traitor to his class"..and not afraid to do the right thing... tokenlib Oct 2013 #73

Lincoln, TR and FDR. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #74

Huey Long joshcryer Oct 2013 #75

Washington Recursion Oct 2013 #77

FDR B Calm Oct 2013 #79

Jimmy Carter Rhiannon12866 Oct 2013 #80

Andrew Jackson startupz Oct 2013 #81

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #88

Clinton...good times Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #83

Clinton and Carter davidpdx Oct 2013 #85

Eisenhower for trying to warn us - TBF Oct 2013 #86

Washington, FDR, Carter. nt LWolf Oct 2013 #87