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hfojvt

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31. so they are across the board
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:22 AM
Oct 2013

that does not mean that Obama could not have fought for and Congress could not have passed rates like this

10% up to $8,925
15% up to $36,250
25% up to $87,850
30.5% up to $183,250
35.5% up to $398,350
39.1% up to $400,000
39.6% at $400,001+

and also mandated that dividends be treated like ordinary income, just like they were in the good old days before Bush mucked things up.

And further, that does not mean that what Obama and Democrats eventually settled for is NOT very advantageous to the rich.

Because it is, to the tune of $2.1 trillion as the analysis of CTJ shows.

$2.1 trillion in permanent tax cuts to the top 5% that all those Democrats voted for and that Obama signed and wants to spin as some sort of 'victory'.

It's a $2.1 trillion loss.

I would even say it is a $4 trillion loss, but SOME people are bound and determined to include most of the TOP 20% as part of the "middle" class.

This message was self-deleted by its author Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #1
How does Patty Murray fit into this? factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #2
When it comes to ATRA hfojvt Oct 2013 #4
Exactly, in any coming debates, it will be all about "austerity", and how the poor folk will have quinnox Oct 2013 #3
well gotta have priorities hfojvt Oct 2013 #21
Good post 1000words Oct 2013 #5
Grand Illusion Poker Bots Oct 2013 #6
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #13
good, thoughtful post. K&R Dragonfli Oct 2013 #7
K&R. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #8
Excellent link re distribution of wealth. Thanks. Divernan Oct 2013 #9
the wiki page needs an edit hfojvt Oct 2013 #18
How about hammering one point over and over until it's done SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #10
That's really a good idea. And easy - Perhaps 70% of the people already pay this, why are we letting jtuck004 Oct 2013 #11
The are paying actually, but only up to a limit. Raise that limit aka "the cap". SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #20
one trouble with that hfojvt Oct 2013 #14
Agreed. NO Chaine CPI!!! SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #19
Useful information. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #12
Can I go to Paradise Theater instead? dawg Oct 2013 #15
you could hfojvt Oct 2013 #16
DURec leftstreet Oct 2013 #17
Still pushing this nonsense? ProSense Oct 2013 #22
well thankfully the accursed payroll tax cut was ENDED hfojvt Oct 2013 #23
Nonsense. ProSense Oct 2013 #24
right back at you hfojvt Oct 2013 #25
More nonsense ProSense Oct 2013 #26
Why is it impossible to reason with you? hfojvt Oct 2013 #27
Why are you ignoring the effect of the current tax structure? ProSense Oct 2013 #28
maybe because that is not how the rich win hfojvt Oct 2013 #29
The current income tax structure is across the board, and ProSense Oct 2013 #30
so they are across the board hfojvt Oct 2013 #31
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