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In reply to the discussion: There are essentially 2 kinds of debt [View all]Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)49. Here is the revised version of this little essay that I submitted as an LTTE.
Now that the Tea Party-inspired hostage crisis in government is over with, the next battle we're going to be hearing about will revolve around the national debt, and the deficit spending from which the debt arises. Before anyone starts throwing bombs over the issue, it would be well to review a couple of simple facts.
There are essentially two kinds of debt (or maybe more accurately, two poles on the debt spectrum).
One kind of debt occurs when you borrow a lot of money to take all your rowdy friends on a year-long binge and casino tour.
On a national level, this equates to going into the hole while building a military you don't need, fighting stupid wars, pouring Treasury money into bonuses for the bankers who already pocketed billions while gambling away your inheritance, and so on.
The other kind of debt is where you borrow money to improve your house, get an education, and fix your car so you can get to work.
On a national level, this would equate to borrowing in order to put people to work building a 21st-century infrastructure that includes a high-speed transcontinental rail system, providing the whole country with broadband Internet access, building a green energy network, setting up a true national health system, and similar things that will result in improving people's lives and healing the planet.
Conservatives typically favor the former kind of debt, and progressives, the latter kind.
Conservatives have for decades played a game of indulging in unfunded spending binges when in power, and then using the debt they run up with nothing to show for it as an excuse to prevent the progressives from creating the second kind of debt, the kind that advances our national well-being.
And I'm getting really fed up with this stupid game.
There are essentially two kinds of debt (or maybe more accurately, two poles on the debt spectrum).
One kind of debt occurs when you borrow a lot of money to take all your rowdy friends on a year-long binge and casino tour.
On a national level, this equates to going into the hole while building a military you don't need, fighting stupid wars, pouring Treasury money into bonuses for the bankers who already pocketed billions while gambling away your inheritance, and so on.
The other kind of debt is where you borrow money to improve your house, get an education, and fix your car so you can get to work.
On a national level, this would equate to borrowing in order to put people to work building a 21st-century infrastructure that includes a high-speed transcontinental rail system, providing the whole country with broadband Internet access, building a green energy network, setting up a true national health system, and similar things that will result in improving people's lives and healing the planet.
Conservatives typically favor the former kind of debt, and progressives, the latter kind.
Conservatives have for decades played a game of indulging in unfunded spending binges when in power, and then using the debt they run up with nothing to show for it as an excuse to prevent the progressives from creating the second kind of debt, the kind that advances our national well-being.
And I'm getting really fed up with this stupid game.
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Here is the revised version of this little essay that I submitted as an LTTE.
Jackpine Radical
Oct 2013
#49
K/R. One is investment and elevates all of us, the other is hookers and blow and is wasteful, sad.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#7
I live in WNY where the Iroquois and some of their thought is known better than in many other areas
Dragonfli
Oct 2013
#10
It should be incorporated into the oath taken by members of congress and other electeds.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#13
Well that has brought a tear to my eye...though Sioux, not Iroquois, my grandfather..
Tikki
Oct 2013
#24
Don't worry. We're going to get at least 2 years without them, come the mid-terms.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2013
#12
Nice post. And look what a fine job we've done in encouraging debt for eduction.
jtuck004
Oct 2013
#14
Perhaps if the money was used to create good paying jobs instead of bombs, the graduates
A Simple Game
Oct 2013
#21
I believe it was an excellent investment from both an economic and democratic point of view. n/t
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#39
Don't forget that W's War Debt didn't even go on the books as debt til his ass was gone
MadLinguist
Oct 2013
#50