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Nuclear Unicorn

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40. I'm with you on the admin vs. teachers issue.

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:10 PM

Oct 2013

But go ahead and say you want to cut admin's strangle hold on education and watch the ensuing riot. I've a sneaking suspicion that many admin positions are "kingdom building" exercises.

You seem to be talking from the position that the inevitable result of a strike is unnaturally high worker pay.

No. I'm saying they serve at the pleasure of the people. That has to be the first rule and if/when it is forgotten it needs to be retaught with unflinching resolve. Failure to do so will resulting in losses far worse than a mere trolley system.

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A Democrat who's pushing to outlaw transit strikes [View all] marmar Oct 2013 OP

He's going after the Reagan votes Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #1

If you want to get people out of their cars and on to mass transit, it has to be reliable. FarCenter Oct 2013 #2

Workers also need a living wage nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #8

Fuck that, not having the right to organize and bargain gopiscrap Oct 2013 #3

who's denying them the right to organize and bargain? brooklynite Oct 2013 #5

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Actually, strikes are largely a relic of the past. Xithras Oct 2013 #46

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As I said... Xithras Oct 2013 #50

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Well, this IS California, not Wisconsin. Xithras Oct 2013 #52

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San Diego isn't exactly a bellweather for the rest of the state. Xithras Oct 2013 #54

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pithy nonsense, there is no way at all that labor can hold payments as described TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #65

How do you bargain without leverage? How do you gain any leverage without being able to strike? Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #11

Public opinion and political clout brooklynite Oct 2013 #14

Yes, I would support them going on strike. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #15

How would you like it if your wages and benefits were subject to the whims of public opinion? Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #17

"How would you like it if your wages and benefits were subject to the whims of public opinion?" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #19

They are workers just like I am and I support them if they go on strike. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #21

Many unions are prohibited from striking and they still manage to negotiate. brooklynite Oct 2013 #23

See post #13 Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #25

My comments were not about private sector unions. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #29

If "the people" actually set the wages, that might be a good argument. jeff47 Oct 2013 #33

I'm with you on the admin vs. teachers issue. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #40

You seem to be confusing politicians with transit workers. jeff47 Oct 2013 #41

They have been for decades... brooklynite Oct 2013 #22

Management doesn't want workers to be able to strike. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #24

You do know that is a false comparison since FF have a no strike clause nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #20

I do indeed... brooklynite Oct 2013 #26

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Actually, no it wasn't brooklynite Oct 2013 #31

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Ah, the slippery slope... brooklynite Oct 2013 #48

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It boils down to what is reasonable seveneyes Oct 2013 #4

Labor is not being unreasonable to demand living wages nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7

Of course not seveneyes Oct 2013 #9

That is a media generated meme nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10

Thank, will put some serious analysis nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #12

A Democrat hoping to implement Scott Walkers Koch funded agenda in California. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #13

We have a fair amount of union-busting DINOs out here KamaAina Oct 2013 #16

Union busting -- it's not just for asshole Republicans anymore! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #18

Nope. It's for asshole Democrats, too. FiveGoodMen Oct 2013 #35

As one who's had to put up with transit strikes in NYC,... badtoworse Oct 2013 #27

Because I really want my driver to be making minimum wage. jeff47 Oct 2013 #34

these people aren't really into looking at the big picture.. frylock Oct 2013 #38

classic reddread Oct 2013 #42

A NYC Bus Driver makes at least $30 per hour plus full benefits badtoworse Oct 2013 #43

And they got that way through magic and pixie dust. jeff47 Oct 2013 #44

That's arguable badtoworse Oct 2013 #45

He's a DINO. The right to collective bargaining and the right to strike must NOT kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #28

This is why we should not automatically be voting for anyone with a D after their name. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #36

I expected this thread to be about Rahm Emanuel Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #37

Jerry Brown Democrats reddread Oct 2013 #39

I still think Quan should have been a keynote speaker at the DNC Fumesucker Oct 2013 #63

I was moved by her involvement, ala Brown reddread Oct 2013 #66

Public employee unions that strike are shitting in their own food dishes tularetom Oct 2013 #56

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Apples and oranges tularetom Oct 2013 #60

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i hope he gets his ass handed to him. nt xchrom Oct 2013 #57

the bay Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #67

Give him a break he's from upper middle class Orinda and Jerry's dog walker. mulsh Oct 2013 #59

Steve Glazer has got to go. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #62

So he's following FDR's lead? joshcryer Oct 2013 #64