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sabrina 1

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96. It brings back memories of the old

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:32 PM

Oct 2013

Bush era and the lame insults launched at Liberal bloggers. They sounded frustrated and angry rather than what they wanted to, or thought they sounded like.

The Left was right back then, Greenwald being among the most prominent Liberal bloggers on the Left at the time. Their lame insults are now just a historical record of the stupidity of their blind support for all that was wrong about the Bush gang of criminals.

The Left is right again Greenwald still being among the most prominent Liberal bloggers, now elevated, thanks mostly to his attackers, to Liberal Journalist, and nothing has changed.

The lame insults will again stand as a historical record of the stupidity of his critics, willing once again to put party before country and principle.

Funny how things come full circle. When Greenwald wrote about Bush spying on the American people the Left went wild and the Right called him a 'Psycho'!! Yes, they did, seriously!

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Greenwald: Feinstein and Pelosi defend NSA because "there is a Democrat in the White House" [View all] Shampoyeto Oct 2013 OP

My problem with Feinstein in particular Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #1

Oh come on DJ13 Oct 2013 #3

Pelosi for certain is doing this for partisan reasons. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #138

I'm not so sure about that. Autumn Oct 2013 #2

So he reads minds now as well. Egnever Oct 2013 #4

Psychic? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #6

The second thing. randome Oct 2013 #10

Who? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #92

Greenwald is more psycho than psychic. randome Oct 2013 #93

It brings back memories of the old sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #96

Well, I don't do 'frustrated'. Thought you could see that by now. randome Oct 2013 #97

You seem very frustrated to me. Name calling always demonstrates sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #102

It was Obama who put in a lot more restrictions and protections once he took office. randome Oct 2013 #112

Maybe you should start expanding your sources then. China, eg, sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #164

How often has China hacked into our systems? randome Oct 2013 #170

What took you so long? radiclib Oct 2013 #25

And Nancy Pelosi will be SOTH in 2015... while Glenny Boy will be looking for a job BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #5

"Glenny Boy" ? bvar22 Oct 2013 #23

I don't believe in blessings, but thanks! BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #29

You know that phrase... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #40

I'm aware. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #42

With Bluegrass in your name... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #116

Not always sometimes it means sincere sympathy, when someone gets hurt, or is suffering Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #130

Yeah, it is all about inflection... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #142

What is it that is the beautiful thing about America? cui bono Oct 2013 #88

Bush supporters said that about 'Glenny Boy' back in 2006 when he sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #95

You keep on mistakenly refer to Greenwald as a liberal blogger. You are so wrong it's pitiful. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #135

Yep. Here is a list that proves he is right wing... Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #136

LOL. Nice cherrypicking. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #139

LOL. Intelligent rebuttal. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #163

Thank you. Greenwald was a hero of the Left during the Bush years, sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #162

An Iraq war supporting hero to the left?! Nope, he can talk all the shit now about NOT supporting... uponit7771 Oct 2013 #175

Oh please LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #185

Yes, REALLY easy to "reverse" himself after Fit hits the Shan... He lost benefit of the doubt then.. uponit7771 Oct 2013 #186

Boo hoo, he's criticizing your hero LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #188

Fuck your wingerish "hero" bullshit, could care less about criticism care more about the truth and.. uponit7771 Oct 2013 #196

You continue with your childish LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #202

Wingers reality "Boo Hoo" = adult but calling you on your wingerish shit = childish. Whatever uponit7771 Oct 2013 #203

Ah, I wondered when someone would bring up that smear again. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #209

Did you support the Bush 'agenda' then when Greenwald was sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #161

lol isn't Glenny boy launching a huge venture? LittleBlue Oct 2013 #103

The beautiful thing is that Pierre isn't the only one investing in news. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #105

your use of the diminutive as pejorative is telling bobduca Oct 2013 #157

So Greenwald is shocked to see something like party loyalty? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #7

Trying to find that part of the article where he expresses shock. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #11

ok, not "shock"; he said "...my biggest problem..." Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #12

same as the biggest problem here..those who support massive surveillance and bash greenwald xiamiam Oct 2013 #17

Luckily I'm nuanced enough that I can bash Greenwald AND the NSA Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #21

His biggest problem is with "the Democrats, like Feinstein and Pelosi" Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #18

I get what you're saying Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #20

No his is saying his biggest problem in regards to Democrats... in regards to bi-partisanship. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #67

Which of course leads to the interesting question of Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #74

Who is in power again? Whose DOJ defends the NSA? Which admin is wrting the secret laws Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #77

So what is the plan? What is the endgame for correcting all this? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #108

On Oct. 26, join us for a rally against mass surveillance in WA DC, and around the country. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #111

done and done Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #114

Thank you for that dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #127

My proposal has been posted dozens of times Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #128

'Why wouldn't he hate the GOP for going along with it'???? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #99

Did you just say the whole GOP went "along with it?" Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #210

NSA largess? hootinholler Oct 2013 #19

I've always maintained that congress is reluctant to take any real action Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #22

Our infrascture is crumbling... paved roads are being turned into gravel... bridges are barely Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #75

Yes please. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #89

Agreed Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #100

+1 leftstreet Oct 2013 #126

Half of the people can be hired to spy on the other half dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #125

Would you say NSA critic Ron Wyden is disloyal to the party? nt Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #84

I would just say that I'm not surprised party members stick up for one another Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #101

Those are repubs. We expect herd behavior from them. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #182

And the reason a 'journalist' like Greenwald cares is because there's 'Libertarian-isms' to do! randome Oct 2013 #8

Please just stop with the libertarian smear. Maedhros Oct 2013 #52

That sounds about right Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #9

i see the "forget the 4th amendment crew" is here questionseverything Oct 2013 #13

You mean the '4th Amendment does not apply to the world' crew. randome Oct 2013 #15

Well then if the 4th amendment does not apply to the world zeemike Oct 2013 #39

You're implying that America dictates to the rest of the world. randome Oct 2013 #46

No I am not implying anything. zeemike Oct 2013 #55

Very well said. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #76

Saudi Arabia, for one, might disagree that our Bill of Rights applies to them. randome Oct 2013 #91

" And while we cannot control the world and make laws for them, we can treat them just as Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #104

I never suggested we force our laws on the world. zeemike Oct 2013 #131

I can't really argue with that. randome Oct 2013 #147

Then it is our problem not theirs. zeemike Oct 2013 #155

Our government is always constrained by the Constitution though. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #191

Let me help you out with that. randome Oct 2013 #201

Winner! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #14

some of the comments are embarassing for a democratic site xiamiam Oct 2013 #16

^^^This^^^ bvar22 Oct 2013 #27

It's impossible for them xiamiam. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #37

The Democratic Party, and especially its charismatic leader, are their security blanket. Maedhros Oct 2013 #56

That it is. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #38

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #24

Ah personal attacks always make this site nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #31

It's always been okay to personally attack non-DUers in positions pnwmom Oct 2013 #44

As I said, it makes this place so enjoyable nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #45

I voted to hide and explained my disagreement with your argument. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #180

stupidest fucking post of the day right here frylock Oct 2013 #58

I heard they took away Johnny Depp's citizensship away, too. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #78

Yeah, fucking ex-pats, amirite? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #123

fuck this guy warrior1 Oct 2013 #26

Gee. Ya' think? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #28

she would not be publicly defending the program questionseverything Oct 2013 #35

No doubt. But, she wouldn't be so outspoken in defense of the spying. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #54

Nor would she have been trying to convince everyone to bomb Syria. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #143

Fuck Greenwald...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #30

That's BS from Greenwald - both voted for Patriot Act and he supported it, too. blm Oct 2013 #32

Um...Greenwald was a scathing critic of the Bush Administration and of the Patriot Act. Maedhros Oct 2013 #60

He supported it during the early Bush Admin AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #73

I love how poeple make things up on DU. You do know that he was talking specifically about the Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #80

It's in his own words for crissakes. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #98

No it isn't. He was referring specifically to the invasion of Iraq. You imaganined that Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #107

the Iraq War came after the Patriot Act AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #113

You have no idea if he opposed it because he doesn't address it. He is specifically addressing Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #115

If he opposed it before the Iraq War, AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #120

He wasn't writing then. He started his blog in 2005. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #121

He wasn't INSPIRED to write down his protests of Bush before 2005? LOL blm Oct 2013 #167

AMEN!! The logic pretzel people put themselves into while supporting GG is gob smacking uponit7771 Oct 2013 #177

How can someone write about something when they weren't writing? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #197

That's not what I said. If Patriot Act and assorted other abuses blm Oct 2013 #204

He started writing his book "How Would A Patriot Act" in 2005. The same year that Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #205

You keep missing my point - he wasn't inspired to jump in publicly blm Oct 2013 #207

Your point keeps shifting. I know enough about this nation's history of Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #208

The 1st Netroots meeting was in 2006. In 2005 Greenwald had already written an entire Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #195

WOW. That's so weak. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #181

Explain to me how the man could have written something when he wasn't writing. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #198

Patriot Act was all about National Security, Lumi. blm Oct 2013 #168

So? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #122

I agree with your point. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #129

But you will vote for her if whe wins the primary. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #134

No. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #146

Little doubt that Greenwald would, either. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #165

As noted repeatedly elsewhere, this passage refers to the invasion of Iraq Maedhros Oct 2013 #119

I'm a big fan of the ability to change one's mind. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #133

Point being that he's attacking on NSA policies that he supported for a number of years blm Oct 2013 #169

You appear confused. Maedhros Oct 2013 #171

That's your turnip truck version. I'm well aware of his 'journey' Mae. blm Oct 2013 #174

I've been reading his columns since he began writing them. Maedhros Oct 2013 #178

Baloney, Mae. I even tried to get info to Greenwald on some media matters blm Oct 2013 #183

Early on he supported Bush. Cut the revisionism. Turnip truck rides aren't my thing. blm Oct 2013 #166

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are arguing in good faith. Maedhros Oct 2013 #173

I read it when it came out. I had hopes for Greenwald, then other aspects of his blm Oct 2013 #176

"Other aspects of his character." Maedhros Oct 2013 #179

Obama was president in 2006? Apparently, you know nothing about me, Mae. blm Oct 2013 #184

Of course, my analysis of your motives is indeed speculative. Maedhros Oct 2013 #189

Your assumption is, indeed, incorrect. I don't coordinate with anyone and... blm Oct 2013 #200

The fact that he's singling out our Democratic women is very telling. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #33

That's nonsense. NOVA_Dem Oct 2013 #36

Or it could be that Pelosi is the most powerful Democrat in the House NuclearDem Oct 2013 #43

but that would make entirely too much sense frylock Oct 2013 #61

It's so much more satisfying to abuse the sexist card NuclearDem Oct 2013 #94

And when women sell us out America is sold out. zeemike Oct 2013 #47

"If women want equal treatment." BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #48

"He is singling out our Democratic women" zeemike Oct 2013 #64

I think you owe women an apology. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #66

Well I think you owe Greenwald an apology zeemike Oct 2013 #71

distractions like this are foolish questionseverything Oct 2013 #72

If she doesn't want to be challenged on her support of spying she shouldn't support it. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #57

it's unfortunate that neither of them is black so that you could accuse him of racism as well frylock Oct 2013 #59

His pro bono defense of a white supremacist threatening to kill a federal judge does that. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #65

keep fucking that chicken frylock Oct 2013 #69

I will. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #70

Jury results: Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #144

i post this quite a bit and usually with the same results.. frylock Oct 2013 #149

He didn't defend him in the criminal trial. He defended him in the 1st Amendment trial. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #83

No decent person could defend someone accused of a crime DefenseLawyer Oct 2013 #110

Both powerful leaders in their respective houses. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #81

They are backbenchers right? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #82

That is even more absurd and transparent than your other posts in this thread. bvar22 Oct 2013 #87

As is your avatar glorifying a domestic terrorist. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #117

How is a critic in a comic book form nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #124

less than tenuous grasp upon reality it appears reddread Oct 2013 #159

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #160

...oooooh, dear. sibelian Oct 2013 #193

Women are a big REason Republicans are doing horribly , look at the Virginia Gov Race JI7 Oct 2013 #90

Wow that was pathetic dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #132

He must hate women! bobduca Oct 2013 #156

This MUST be performance art LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #187

OK, you're a waste of space. sibelian Oct 2013 #194

Damn right. ancianita Nov 2013 #211

Greenwald is correct - the national security state is totally bipartisan. polichick Oct 2013 #34

He could have said the exact same thing for many of the posters at DU. last1standing Oct 2013 #41

Well said Oilwellian Oct 2013 #192

Feinstein has always gone along with NSA even while Bush was president ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #49

Greenwald is still spreading disinformation on this. stevenleser Oct 2013 #50

Your opinions are noted. Maedhros Oct 2013 #63

The fact is that Greenwald has never addressed the history and appellate decisions that frame this stevenleser Oct 2013 #68

Greenwald's point is that the surveillance state is destructive to democracy. Maedhros Oct 2013 #85

150 years ago, Steve would have defended slavery because judicial precedence. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #109

An absolutely disgusting post to make to person of color. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #148

Boo fucking hoo. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #150

Care to expand on your brilliant reply? nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #151

I could add an extra "fucking" or two but that would be silly. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #152

I think you are a bright, shining light to your profession. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #153

True that. I am an excellent cat wrangler. 9 out of 10 cats agree. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #154

I read the posts in your links in full. Maedhros Oct 2013 #118

Greenwald has no arguments, he has no court citations, he has nothing. stevenleser Oct 2013 #199

Thanks for your concern, RW Libertarian hack/scammer. tridim Oct 2013 #51

I wish more "RW" wrote multiple anti-W Bush books Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #86

He's wrong about Feinstein. JoeyT Oct 2013 #53

I agree with Greenwald's overall point, but you're right about Feinstein. deurbano Oct 2013 #79

No shit. In similarly surprising news, my dog's breath smells like dog food. n/t hughee99 Oct 2013 #62

how`s the weather in brazil greenwald? madrchsod Oct 2013 #106

the juvenile is strong in this thread, young Skywalker.... mike_c Oct 2013 #137

Just look at the corporate propaganda swarm on this thread. woo me with science Oct 2013 #140

Huge K&R. Important thread. woo me with science Oct 2013 #141

And another kick. bvar22 Oct 2013 #145

Feinstein Manor festooned with code pink banners! bobduca Oct 2013 #158

Captain Obvious. L0oniX Oct 2013 #172

DiFi would be down if Stalin, Mao, Khan, or Attila was in the White House. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #190

yep. pretty obvious. bowens43 Oct 2013 #206