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LittleBlue

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87. I will wait for the facts to come out before giving an opinion

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:58 PM

Oct 2013

If the kid waved a replica gun at an officer, it was a stupid mistake that cost him his life.

If the kid was shot in the back as he tried to flee, then it was murder or something similar.

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Wrong Color Skin, wrong neighborhood, 13 yr old shot and killed for toy gun [View all] FreakinDJ Oct 2013 OP

"I'm sure you can tell...." PeteSelman Oct 2013 #1

thank you leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #4

BullShit - Blond 2nd Amendment types downtown Seattle FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #13

Don't be any more of a fool than you can help. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #43

Fools accept the Killing of Children for no reason FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #49

Agreed. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #61

check my latest post in GD FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #62

That's very colorful. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #64

Thank you FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #65

Look who is the Fool now FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #51

show a pic - i haven't seen the gun lame54 Oct 2013 #21

Here's a link with a pict of the gun...It looks real. Javaman Oct 2013 #25

I thought companies were banned from making toys that "realistic?" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #28

don't know.. Javaman Oct 2013 #72

The kids pull them out so they look real Link Speed Oct 2013 #93

Pic at this link. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #42

No information here zipplewrath Oct 2013 #45

It's hard not to assume that a person with a gun is not a maniac, thanks to gun culture. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #2

Exactly. nt RiffRandell Oct 2013 #18

That's what I think too. This is definitely a tragedy, but gun culture is as much at fault as anyone Hoyt Oct 2013 #32

A++ pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #154

If the story is true, the kid did a very stupid thing, LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #3

Cops lie under oath all the time FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #14

Yes they do. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #26

The kid never had a chance. He was shot in the back. Xithras Oct 2013 #66

If this is what happened then indeed the child had no chance at all... peacebird Oct 2013 #101

In the "kill or be killed" state of being Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #148

No. Stupid kid with completely realistic looking gun. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #5

Something very wrong with our Society FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #17

What would you do? GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #50

check KTVU - Eye witness - Boy never turned FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #52

Post link. I have to go to work now. Will check back tomorrow. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #57

I would, as a cop charged with serving and protecting citizens... as someone paid to put my own life Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #109

There was no pointing of the toy gun. morningfog Oct 2013 #134

Points? hatrack Oct 2013 #139

The point is obvious. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #149

The "points" referred to here is your reference to a hypothetical "suspect" pointing a replica gun hatrack Oct 2013 #150

In the link in the OP, quoted below: GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #152

You mean cops are defending other cops? EOTE Oct 2013 #156

I'll wait and see if the cops' official story passes muster Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #30

Everyone loses in a case like this. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #6

i'll wait DustyJoe Oct 2013 #7

with you there. littlewolf Oct 2013 #10

Where's the video and the audio from the cops? Police? Occupiers. marble falls Oct 2013 #8

The real version of that toy gun is illegal in California. Kaleva Oct 2013 #9

You are wrong. Lurks Often Oct 2013 #11

Its ok to assume because its a Hispanic Neighborhood FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #20

and you assumed it was because of his skin color Demonaut Oct 2013 #23

No - grew up by there - I know FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #36

When did you last live there? Link Speed Oct 2013 #94

2000 FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #98

The neighborhood has changed Link Speed Oct 2013 #102

Just Smacks of Bigotry - "I would have shot him on the spot" FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #105

disgusting. you should not be allowed to own a gun. Truly pathetic. bowens43 Oct 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2013 #111

You are an a real piece of.......work! Tough guy! nt Logical Oct 2013 #112

You're an idiot who, like the idiot cops, kills indiscriminately. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #118

Ain't that sweet. ellie Oct 2013 #133

The white cops in my white neighborhood would shoot my white ass if I pointed that at them. Throd Oct 2013 #34

And the Teaparty shows up to President wearing guns FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #37

My point is that if you point a realistic looking gun at cops, they shoot you. Throd Oct 2013 #41

Your point is you want Minorities Killed Indiscriminately FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #147

Yes. That is what I want. You figured me out. Throd Oct 2013 #155

And you assume that all cops are evil Lurks Often Oct 2013 #46

No - there used to be Humans in those uniforms FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #48

Stop complaining and become a police officer yourself Lurks Often Oct 2013 #58

No cop.. in the history of cops... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #116

"acted correctly based on what they KNEW at the time of the shooting..." Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #63

This is a picture of what he was carrying ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #12

How about a pic of a 13 child FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #15

Kids are known to frequent schools joeglow3 Oct 2013 #16

In a field used by kids with Airsoft guns FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #19

Ignoring police orders and pointing what looks like an assault rifle elicits ONE response joeglow3 Oct 2013 #24

Sneaking up behind, startling and scaring 13yr olds FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #31

The cops say his back was to them at first, and that's why they did not know tblue37 Oct 2013 #44

Eye witness says Boy never had a chance to turn FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #53

Autopsy says otherwise. No back wounds. NickB79 Oct 2013 #153

You have an error. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #55

Federal law requires airsoft guns be sold with an orange tip. Kaleva Oct 2013 #27

Jeezus... parents actually give these to their kids as "toys"? theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #22

I had toys guns. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #29

Newcastle CA FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #33

I always took my BB gun out to fields or wooded areas to shoot LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #40

I was a kid in the early 80s and they were pretty realistic then... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #59

Never once did I hear of children being killed by cops in the 80s Rex Oct 2013 #84

I remember these being national news, growing up in Va.: Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #89

Back in the 60's, we could take real guns to school... Kaleva Oct 2013 #128

That's funny, I used to love that smell, too. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #126

f back Jeneral2885 Oct 2013 #35

Because I'm pissed - this didn't have to happen FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #38

Who the hell are you calling 'you people'? Rex Oct 2013 #67

Who's you people? uponit7771 Oct 2013 #120

So far the story and evidence justifies the shooting aikoaiko Oct 2013 #39

Why would parents buy their kids a gun like that? IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #47

Check KTVU - eye witness - boy never had a chance to turn FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #54

****HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK!?**** uponit7771 Oct 2013 #56

EXACTLY FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #60

I would be dead if I was born as a child in these modern times. Rex Oct 2013 #69

If he was shot in the back. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #70

Im not seeing/reading what you are aikoaiko Oct 2013 #83

Show me the witness testimony. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #85

Here you go Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #99

It doesn't say the kid was shot in the back as some claim. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #100

NO it does not at all! He was shot 5 times in the back! Rex Oct 2013 #68

Says who he was shot 5x in the back? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #73

2 eye witness statements FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #74

Doesn't matter to some here, all they care about are LEOs Rex Oct 2013 #76

Thanks, but I'll wait for the autopsy report before I brand them guilty, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #77

Really would like to see links to those statements. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #127

Shot seven times before or while turning. morningfog Oct 2013 #135

Still looking for links with witness quotes aikoaiko Oct 2013 #137

. morningfog Oct 2013 #138

Being shot in the back is categorically false. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #140

He was shot from behind while turning around. He could not even make it around. morningfog Oct 2013 #144

I will admit that it could be murder, but I don't see a preponderance of evidence showing that YET aikoaiko Oct 2013 #145

Could very well be incorrect? You don't have to carry water for Rex Oct 2013 #75

I'm the kind of person that waits for the official report, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #78

Like I said I am very thankful you are not a LEO. Rex Oct 2013 #80

And you would be so wrong about me not being LEO, I'm at the Federal level. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #86

Some don't care for facts. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #92

Yeah, I'm getting that impression. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #146

Can you provide links to the witnesses saying this? aikoaiko Oct 2013 #91

Um....no, fuck no. NOTHING will EVER "justify" killing a 13-year old for playing DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #79

It is blind love of LEOs. Rex Oct 2013 #81

Or is it blind hatred of LEOs the assumption of wrongdoing. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #122

No special insight except to say that if a teenager pointed that fake gun at me... aikoaiko Oct 2013 #123

A picture of the gun does not justify it. morningfog Oct 2013 #114

No but it is consistent with the police story. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #124

I'm not understanding the title of your post... "Wrong Color Skin, wrong neighborhood." BeeBee Oct 2013 #71

Santa Rosa resident here DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #82

Exactly Right FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #88

I am also a Santa Rosa resident. BeeBee Oct 2013 #90

Exactly. Those of us who live in the Valley know this. Link Speed Oct 2013 #95

Edited to be less friendly after your subsequent posts on the subject DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #96

It's a strange divide, isn't it? Link Speed Oct 2013 #97

I will wait for the facts to come out before giving an opinion LittleBlue Oct 2013 #87

What if the kid were shot 6 or 7 times while he was on the ground? Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #104

If that's true, then it's murder LittleBlue Oct 2013 #106

I know this won't be popular, but I think a cop should have to wait until he is in imminent danger Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #103

Look at the picture of this kid FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #107

I agree. It's disgusting. A lot of blaming the victim going on as well. "the kid made a mistake Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #108

How tall do you have to be to pull a trigger? How old do you have to be to pull a trigger? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #115

Babys pull triggers FreakinDJ Oct 2013 #119

you're not the only one. uncle ray Oct 2013 #117

That's not "imminent danger", it would be "demonstrated danger"... JVS Oct 2013 #121

Having what a reasonably knowledgable person thinks is a rifle pointed at you... aikoaiko Oct 2013 #125

As a pro-gun guy... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #113

Pro Gun guy... trumad Oct 2013 #129

Feel free to send a PM if you're ascared... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #130

ascared trumad Oct 2013 #131

Do you guys get a pamphlet or something? Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #141

Yeah-- because being a gun guy makes you such a serious person. trumad Oct 2013 #142

I have a sneaking suspicion... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #143

It is interesting that the cop apologists on this case are morningfog Oct 2013 #136

"Even members of law enforcement expressed sympathy." SO WHAT? Th1onein Oct 2013 #132

A pellet gun that looked like an assault rifle AndyA Oct 2013 #151