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31. I've seen instances of teachers not caring about potential 'problem students'

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 05:09 PM

Oct 2013

doing their own thing in the back of class as long as they weren't a disruption for everyone else...

But yeah, listening to music is a whole new ballgame...

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Box cutter used to kill teacher [View all] graywarrior Oct 2013 OP

While I can't bring myself to read this story in detail, closeupready Oct 2013 #1

He had just moved to the area after living in Tennessee and Florida graywarrior Oct 2013 #3

He was. He often sat in the back, was no trouble, took notes, sometimes drew, and MADem Oct 2013 #6

No shit, huh? graywarrior Oct 2013 #20

Damn right! MADem Oct 2013 #22

Ha ha, kids smoke and drink on premises in many schools these days in the underfunded cities. bettyellen Oct 2013 #39

Danvers--though once known for its insane asylum--is a fairly well off suburban community. MADem Oct 2013 #45

There was a recent murder at the former Danvers Mental Institute now ritzy apartments & condos graywarrior Oct 2013 #60

Yeah, someone started a huge fire and burnt part of the site down a few years back MADem Oct 2013 #68

I used to teach art therapy to the criminally insane in the 70s up there. graywarrior Oct 2013 #70

Cue the DARK SHADOWS theme!!!! nt MADem Oct 2013 #71

Quentin! graywarrior Oct 2013 #72

One of my siblings was entranced by that show!! Barnabas Collins...and Quentin as well!!! MADem Oct 2013 #82

I worked there as well lordsummerisle Oct 2013 #105

Wow, amazing! graywarrior Oct 2013 #106

No way! I was held there during most of the 80s! MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #107

Are you kidding about lordsummerisle Oct 2013 #108

I was trying to make a joke about MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #109

gosh , suburbia is like another world. most public city schools are nothing like that. bettyellen Oct 2013 #85

Weapons aren't a big deal in MA. Yes, there are shootings, but it's not like other parts of the MADem Oct 2013 #87

one friend teaches english in NYC- never a single textbook for the kids, and classrooms break the bettyellen Oct 2013 #88

I've seen instances of teachers not caring about potential 'problem students' Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #31

I used to daydream, sneak reading and write stories in class Chemisse Oct 2013 #58

Most kids who use headphones use them to concentrate on their work. knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #74

Yeah, nothing like a droning non-lyrical techno piece to close you in. joshcryer Oct 2013 #89

Droning, non-lyrical instructors are pretty damn effective at that too.. Fumesucker Oct 2013 #93

At keeping you from wanting to do the work. joshcryer Oct 2013 #94

Apparently she asked him to stay after school TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #7

Bad idea for a high school teacher to ever be alone with a student. FarCenter Oct 2013 #17

i think it's very common for high school teachers to be alone with students at school to help JI7 Oct 2013 #24

For personal safety, and to eliminate questions of impropriety, it shouldn't happen FarCenter Oct 2013 #41

it's something that has been happening for decades with no problems, but i can see things changing JI7 Oct 2013 #42

Formerly, schools would expell students who were trouble. FarCenter Oct 2013 #44

We still do. knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #76

That's often not possible. knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #75

Good God, it happens all the time Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #28

It happens daily. Chemisse Oct 2013 #59

Exactly. Self-fulfilling prophecy. knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #77

He was a student in her class. He followed her into the bathroom and killed her. MADem Oct 2013 #10

Wow. That definitely sounds like some kind of mental illness. closeupready Oct 2013 #14

I used to substitute teach in Lynn graywarrior Oct 2013 #21

City of sin!!!!! MADem Oct 2013 #26

LMAO! I remember that! graywarrior Oct 2013 #34

Re-veeee-ah!!!! MADem Oct 2013 #36

Of course! graywarrior Oct 2013 #37

How cruel!!! How hilarious!!! MADem Oct 2013 #49

Absolutely! graywarrior Oct 2013 #61

omfg ..... LOLOLOLOLOL Marrah_G Oct 2013 #55

Southis are original, thats for sure graywarrior Oct 2013 #62

No kidding! RiffRandell Oct 2013 #67

I hate you. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #86

You're worth it, MannyGoldstein! graywarrior Oct 2013 #101

I can only imagiine being that close to it. It's just so heartbreakingly Cha Oct 2013 #90

The horror that poor girl had to face. It must have been so frightening. graywarrior Oct 2013 #100

I'll reiterate: Aren't security cameras for surveillance IN REAL TIME ? As in, preventative or at WinkyDink Oct 2013 #63

Reiterate? When did you say that to me initially? MADem Oct 2013 #65

Heh. Not to you; it was anyone who read my remark in another thread. But I'm sorry; schools ( where WinkyDink Oct 2013 #102

Phew! I thought I was having lapses of some sort!!! MADem Oct 2013 #103

That is such a bizarre case to me. ananda Oct 2013 #2

Especially since he went to a movie and a fast food place to eat right after graywarrior Oct 2013 #5

Wow. ananda Oct 2013 #8

Extreme mental illness? Thrill killing? Psychopathic conduct? MADem Oct 2013 #13

Extrapolating, I'm seeing a poorly-educated kid bouncing around the South and then MA. Frustrated WinkyDink Oct 2013 #64

What an horrific crime. He killed her, dumped her in the woods, stole her credit card MADem Oct 2013 #4

So. ananda Oct 2013 #9

These things rarely happen out of the blue Warpy Oct 2013 #11

They aren't saying, but they are trying him as an adult. nt MADem Oct 2013 #15

So ieoeja Oct 2013 #25

What's an adult, though? In MA, you can vote at 18, but you can't buy alcohol. MADem Oct 2013 #33

Under Massachusetts law - LiberalElite Oct 2013 #78

And there ya go. We don't have the death penalty up this way. nt MADem Oct 2013 #81

14 is a little young for the onset of schizophrenia theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #96

Yes, it would be "early onset." His schoolmates observed a distinct personality change MADem Oct 2013 #104

I hate "tried as an adult". MindPilot Oct 2013 #16

Whatever it is, it's the "know better" element being applied. MADem Oct 2013 #19

Several years in prison likely won't do much either. MindPilot Oct 2013 #29

I'm guessing he will never see "prison" but he will be locked in a secure psych facility. MADem Oct 2013 #35

Sure, yeah, he should go free. I'm a big fan of murdering young women and admire the people who do. MindPilot Oct 2013 #38

I think the middle ground, at least right now, is called "secure psychiatric facility." MADem Oct 2013 #50

I have no problem with this. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #23

But under the law if he isn't tried as an adult Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #30

Fine. He only gets four years for brutal murder. alphafemale Oct 2013 #56

Thank you for telling me what I think. MindPilot Oct 2013 #98

She was only 24 years old--very sad. WI_DEM Oct 2013 #12

Why am I reminded of Breaking Bad just now? Initech Oct 2013 #18

This story is so damn sad Marrah_G Oct 2013 #27

Wow...she was exactly my age. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #32

How horrible that we live in a country Here Oct 2013 #40

well that was both stupid and callous. congrats on that cali Oct 2013 #43

So... Here Oct 2013 #46

I said what I think. cali Oct 2013 #47

That's nice Here Oct 2013 #48

Don't play the "disingenuous" card. Homeys don't play that game here. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #66

or to the Internet NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #51

I hope you are just passing through town JoePhilly Oct 2013 #54

RIP. I wonder if he murdered before? ecstatic Oct 2013 #52

my reaction: lock him up and thaway the key Rene Oct 2013 #53

�Totally faded out�: Classmates, former coach describe alleged killer Philip Chism FarCenter Oct 2013 #57

Something happened. Kids don't just do that for no reason. knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #80

Former high school history teacher here elfin Oct 2013 #69

A crush? She could not handle? I think your thesis is not borne out by facts. MADem Oct 2013 #83

The person you were responding to was musing about possible JanMichael Oct 2013 #91

I'm talking about the kind of mental illness where people hear voices, not MADem Oct 2013 #92

Where in the world did you get JanMichael Oct 2013 #99

Wonder if he got the idea from Breaking Bad Spirochete Oct 2013 #73

Maybe it occurred to him because it was a very sharp blade Orrex Oct 2013 #84

I was going to read the thread--- snooper2 Oct 2013 #79

I'm glad he's being tried as an adult. LittleBlue Oct 2013 #95

teachers should get combat pay. B Calm Oct 2013 #97