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Wolf Frankula

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80. Tea Party is the Schoolyard Bully

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:35 PM

Oct 2013

You do not stop the bully by being nice to it, by giving it what it wants, by telling the bully how great it is. You stop the bully by making it so painful to be the bully that it wants to stop.

For years, I have decried the 'Get Along Gang', the 'We need to forge a bipartisan consensus' crowd and the other wishy washy Democrats. We do not help our party by being wishy-washy. We do not help our country and our people by cozying up to those who want to destroy us. (If you don't think so, Google Liberal Hunting Permit, and Democrat Hunting permit.) We help ourselves by standing firmly for what we believe in. We help our country and our people by carrying out our platform and keeping our promises.

Bipartisanship? The rethuglicans killed that. We did what they asked and met them half way, and they still assailed us. Bipartisanship is dead. I want naked unashamed Democratic partisanship.

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I don't want to come together with the Republican Tea Party. [View all] IdaBriggs Oct 2013 OP

Tell it, IdaBriggs! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

I don't think anyone "important" is listening to the preaching. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #4

If you negotiate with a cannibal ctsnowman Oct 2013 #59

Wow - AWESOME quote. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #60

lol ctsnowman Oct 2013 #63

Yikes Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #92

Bedfellow Politics billhicks76 Oct 2013 #97

There is no common ground with them. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #2

Agreed. (nt) IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #5

Hillary didn't say "Republican" once BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #3

I adore her, but I don't want her in the White House (again). IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #6

I wouldn't mind seeing that too kydo Oct 2013 #15

both those articles Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #7

Bullshit. He is the definition of "EFFECTIVE." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #9

Does not surprise me at all. He is off the charts smart and I would imagine anyone stevenleser Oct 2013 #37

+1 Scuba Oct 2013 #66

+1 Rex Oct 2013 #90

So what is a "Statesman" in your eyes? ReRe Oct 2013 #29

I'd give you a thousand thumbs up for that quote durablend Oct 2013 #39

Get out the giant library edition of the Oxford Dictionary. JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #34

Yeah, let's "play nice". God forbid we piss off the crazy people. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #35

That's cuz you're a niceguy & he's a badass. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #54

Agreed. Way sexier with the goatee. nightscanner59 Oct 2013 #102

Oh stop. tblue Oct 2013 #55

what do the dems have to gain by being statesmen? frylock Oct 2013 #76

Tea Party should have to go out and form their own party, since they are Waaaay out in right field. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #8

I said KILL THEIR PARTY - not THEM. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #11

I quoted you correctly. It isn't OUR job to "KILL their party". These guys are the rethugs mess. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #22

Hmm. Sounds like we are in some agreement - except I advocate "splitting" their party. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #27

Yes, split them like they split us. zeemike Oct 2013 #45

We don't need to drive the wedge. Let's look at prosecuting them instead. The 144 & the 18 NO votes Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #94

I agree on the split, but we get that by working with the reasonable and getting work DONE. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #93

I think you meant Grayson, not Greenspan. n/t aggiesal Oct 2013 #67

They should be utterly obliterated. The cannot or will not police their own, in fact they are what TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #88

There is no such thing as the tea party erronis Oct 2013 #82

it's why we elect adults DrDan Oct 2013 #10

And it makes the "Democrats are WEAK" argument. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #13

of course we do - otherwise we lose the independents DrDan Oct 2013 #16

With a 28% approval rating for Republicans, Dem leaders CRITICIZE THEIR OWN. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #23

and Howard Dean formed coalitions to accomplish that DrDan Oct 2013 #30

Yep. Dump Debbie. Bring back Dean! tblue Oct 2013 #57

And yet the Trash Talk Party controls the House, they control more States as well Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #24

who said you can't criticize them? DrDan Oct 2013 #25

The DNC Chair seems to have a strong "play nice" meme going. (nt) IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #28

I'll continue to trust her instincts DrDan Oct 2013 #43

Well she is better than the guy who cost us 2010. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #61

Who is the mystery guy? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #103

Tim Kaine was DNC Chair when we lost the House in 2010. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #104

Without defining your terms, you sure as hell seem to be calling for kid glove treatment Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #31

Bullshit, where by that logic would the "independents" go? TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author DrDan Oct 2013 #98

that probably won't happen - I will continue to defend, vote, support and contribute to the ADULTS DrDan Oct 2013 #99

So no actual argument then? Just spouting off, using a phony political calculus that you have to TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #100

challenged? DrDan Oct 2013 #101

remember how Kerry acted the adult while the swiftboaters kicked him in nuts repeatedly? frylock Oct 2013 #77

While I generally agree with almost everything that you say, I don't remember that. What I remember AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #107

Elected Democrats haven't had the guts to fight since 1980. mmonk Oct 2013 #12

I'm not sure "guts" is the right word. How about "incentive"? IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #14

Good point. mmonk Oct 2013 #18

I couldn't agree more. raouldukelives Oct 2013 #17

As Gandhi said, the truth is just the truth. ananda Oct 2013 #19

Amen ReRe Oct 2013 #49

This 'both sides do it' bullshit is bullshit. For years all of those Third Way types have Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #20

Because they work for the same corporate entities as the Republicans. polichick Oct 2013 #26

Debbie has been known to support Republicans and refuse to support Democrats Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #32

Hillary's Biggest Supporter, DLC Debbie! Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #38

Yikes - she needs to go then! polichick Oct 2013 #68

Bingo! ReRe Oct 2013 #53

That could be the motto of this nation - sad as it is! polichick Oct 2013 #70

Go listen to the song on Youtube.... ReRe Oct 2013 #79

Amen! ReRe Oct 2013 #50

Fuck them. They would have most of the country in Death Camps if they could. Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #21

Few things with which I have ever agreed more than this. broadcaster75201 Oct 2013 #33

"Coming together" will only work after the Republicans have been ideologically crushed. jeff47 Oct 2013 #36

I say crush the teahadist madokie Oct 2013 #40

We need a "loyal opposition" zipplewrath Oct 2013 #41

Yes, absolutely dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #73

When do they start dialing back that rhetoric? JHB Oct 2013 #42

I'm pissed beyond belief that dem leadership seems more willing to talk to the baggers CrispyQ Oct 2013 #44

Yes, 5 years of trying to 'play nice' & compromise with them has gotten us NOWHERE. Myrina Oct 2013 #46

Can't compromise with insanity Jessy169 Oct 2013 #47

Now, now, Ida. I've been looking forward to coming together with them. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #48

me neither gopiscrap Oct 2013 #51

No bargains with the devil. tblue Oct 2013 #52

Come'on you democrats, get into the shark tank with the poor misguided sharks. AAO Oct 2013 #56

The lunatics shut down the government for nothing, push back against bullies Southside Oct 2013 #58

We have tried to talk to them for years. Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #84

Yes! Southside Oct 2013 #87

LOL I have no choice humbled_opinion Oct 2013 #62

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE! rivegauche Oct 2013 #64

Obama finally woke up and saw there's no dealing with repubs. Paladin Oct 2013 #65

Nancy "impeacment is off the table" Pelosi could learn from Alan - TBF Oct 2013 #69

100% K&R! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #71

Fuckin' A! Jester Messiah Oct 2013 #72

You know who says there is no compromising with the other side and you can't talk to the other side? SamYeager Oct 2013 #74

k to the r frylock Oct 2013 #75

I've backed out of the anti-NSA in DC Saturday for just this reason dorkzilla Oct 2013 #78

Tea Party is the Schoolyard Bully Wolf Frankula Oct 2013 #80

Don't forget all the town halls Tbags went to in order to shout and scream xfundy Oct 2013 #81

thank you heaven05 Oct 2013 #83

America does not negotiate with terrorists. (NT) The Wizard Oct 2013 #85

My motto would be... nikto Oct 2013 #86

You mean they aren't pointy headed redneck bigots? lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #89

Recommended. dakdirty Oct 2013 #95

The tea party rubes are right wing authoritarians. They want to be told what to do. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #96

I don't want to either, but I will..... bobGandolf Oct 2013 #105

So, in other words, you don't see it happening anytime soon. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #106

Ha, ha...correct...unfortunately.. bobGandolf Oct 2013 #108