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joshcryer

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35. Well yeah, spying and surveillance is also a business.

Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:01 PM

Oct 2013

They're basically going to be competing with one another.

Omidyar and Bezo's think that they can own media which is hostile toward the surveillance state (while owning stake in companies that spy on consumers on a regular basis and are in effect monopolies), which will put a dampen on government spying.

Meanwhile the surveillance state wants to make it clear to the journalists and newspapers that they will lose a lot of business if the representatives stop paying the corporations behind the surveillance to do what they do. Like Booz Allen. It's in Booz's interests and the employees at Booz (some 30k people) to downplay the surveillance state. They'll be out of a job if it ends!

Glen Greenwald is not going to have an anti-corporate message.

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Well yeah, spying and surveillance is also a business. joshcryer Oct 2013 #35

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Squawk! He worked for Cato. Squawk! He worked for Cato. Squawk! He worked for Cato. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #50

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Isn't it weird that Elaine did! OMG! Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #51

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