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Glassunion

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70. For the gun nerds

Reply to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

Oct 2013

1. This officer had a chambered round in that AR. Assuming that picture of the rifle on the bike is similar to the mounting of the one that was fired. If there was not a round chambered the charging handle could not have been manipulated with the bracket holding the firearm placed where it was. The student would have been unable to chamber a round if that was the case.
2. The safety could have been on. The student may have disengaged the safety as the mount that the firearm was in, does not seem to block the safety from moving. It is a small lever on the left-hand side slightly above and forward of the grip.
3. It is very unwise to transport an AR-15 with a chambered round. Even with the safety on, the firing pin floats freely. So in an impact the firing pin can strike the primer and discharge the chambered round without the trigger being pulled and while the safety is on.
4. Cop was dumb.
5. Cop was really dumb.
6. Have I mentioned the intelligence of the officer?

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Student Fires AR-15 Mounted on Chino Police Motorcycle, Injuring 3 [View all] Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 OP

Yeah, it's a good thing the police are well-trained and responsible enough to prevent Aristus Oct 2013 #1

Some feel that only the police should carry weapons seveneyes Oct 2013 #2

Sounds like the officer left a round chambered with safety "off." Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #3

To whom? IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #6

Really? trumad Oct 2013 #8

Are you serious? kcr Oct 2013 #12

Well, not joking, but not exactly serious either. IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #15

Okay. I thought it sounded like that, but you can never be too sure on the internet kcr Oct 2013 #16

Use the smilies as needed. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #30

Republican Mantra......Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid.. Bandit Oct 2013 #13

I was unaware of the great amount of time to chamber a round & release the safety. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #24

As a popgun enthusiast, this is something you should know. IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #26

How long does it take to chamber a popgun, and release its safety? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #37

Terry Dunlap Sr. of Lancaster, Ohio, offers a pretty good one. IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #42

Time to load and fire an AR15 Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #76

Sounds about right. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #90

AR-15's have a bolt release tab on the side NickB79 Oct 2013 #82

Thanks for the video. Appears quicker than a popgun! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Oct 2013 #38

Yup. It should have been unloaded actually. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #44

I think so as well, given the purpose of this gathering. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #46

it sounds like the officer is the one who is unschooled in gun safety. nt NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #74

So some cop left a weapon with live ammo Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #4

They secured their AR15s on the bikes poorly. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #5

Lots of different mounts... Historic NY Oct 2013 #7

And you ask us why we want to stop guns instead of "bad guys" Taverner Oct 2013 #9

More training? Not necessarily. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #21

You think police, other than SWAT, get a lot of firearms training? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #22

My dad was a 25 year vetran of the SJPD Taverner Oct 2013 #50

What the hell is the police dept doing with motorcycle mounted AR15s Packerowner740 Oct 2013 #10

Trying to outgun all yahoos stocking up on assault-type weapons, and participating in "militias" Hoyt Oct 2013 #14

But loaded on a motorcycle on display? Packerowner740 Oct 2013 #17

I think we'd need to disarm the gun cultists first. Hoyt Oct 2013 #18

"I think we'd need to disarm the gun cultists first." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #19

You mean you'd hide your gunz if we changed our laws like Australia and all other civilized nations? Hoyt Oct 2013 #20

"My experience" You mispelled 'hallucinations' Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #23

Are you a woman protecting herself against rapists? Your pro-gun posts don't sound like it. Hoyt Oct 2013 #25

But you wuld still have her locked up under the laws you champion. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #33

Is that the best you've got? Hoyt Oct 2013 #34

It's the truth and you know you can't/won't refute it. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #35

You are the one that used a false premise to rationalize your love/promotion of gunz. Hoyt Oct 2013 #39

Please, tell us you under what conditions you would permit guns for self-defense. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #43

It's your turn. How many guns do you own, do you carry in public, including cities. Hoyt Oct 2013 #47

In my home we have more than 2 guns but fewer than 10 Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #54

I think one gun at home is enough, maybe one too many. Hoyt Oct 2013 #55

Well, at least you're brave enough to admit you despise freedom Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #56

Definitely bigoted toward gunz and the harm they cause our society. Hoyt Oct 2013 #57

Oh, yeah, you're a real caring sort. You're just one big cuddly bundle of love. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #58

Says the man who is not even sure how many gunz he owns. Hoyt Oct 2013 #59

"Says the man" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #61

Just another good guy with a loaded gun, safety off, in public, around children and inappropriately libdem4life Oct 2013 #11

Some want to disarm LEOs. Is that your position? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #27

Uh, no. Please reread the post. libdem4life Oct 2013 #29

Good. Then police are indeed "good guys." Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #36

Huh? LEOs carry guns. Check. LOEs don't leave them loaded and unattended with the libdem4life Oct 2013 #40

I guess it was that NRA TalkingPoint about "Good Guys" with guns. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #48

Point taken...it was a kind of an unintended use of a meme. libdem4life Oct 2013 #49

No problem. I don't think this officer did a "good" thing, and he/she Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #60

We all need to support the disarming of stupid, irresponsible LEOs - kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #53

The best answer to good guys with guns is Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #28

Crowbars jberryhill Oct 2013 #31

Is it just me, or does that dude look kind of like Walter White? hatrack Oct 2013 #63

"Similar rifles have removed from other motorcycles used by the police department pending a AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #32

I recommend taking the firing pin out of the BCG ileus Oct 2013 #41

How often does a cop at an elementary school need a locked and loaded rifle? dairydog91 Oct 2013 #64

You know, Cops are trained for these school demonstrations. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #45

There's that Responsible Gun Owner (TM) thing again......... kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #51

I assume it's perfectly normal for police to take a loaded assault weapon to show-and-tell kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #52

I just read this entire thread and nobody Jenoch Oct 2013 #62

Kids that age still have to be told to wash their hands. Lars39 Oct 2013 #65

Said gun safety training to be provided by...Eddie Eagle, perhaps? Paladin Oct 2013 #66

Of course the cop is to blame, Jenoch Oct 2013 #67

I agree that last thing we should be subjecting young kids to is NRA type propaganda/BS. Hoyt Oct 2013 #80

LOL, really? Gun training for kids? A priority? nt Logical Oct 2013 #68

I didn't write priority, Jenoch Oct 2013 #69

And I'm sure our school systems, awash in excess cash, will do your bidding. Paladin Oct 2013 #71

The posters needs it explained simple! Good post! nt Logical Oct 2013 #73

My pleasure, as always. (nt) Paladin Oct 2013 #75

I never mentioned school either. Jenoch Oct 2013 #77

Tell you what: let's just pretend you never posted anything in this thread at all. Paladin Oct 2013 #79

That is your prerogative. Jenoch Oct 2013 #81

Chain saw safety? Ladder safety? nt Logical Oct 2013 #72

You certainly live up to your user name. Jenoch Oct 2013 #78

Wait, now you only think kids that USE guns need training! Nt Logical Oct 2013 #85

Where did I write that? Jenoch Oct 2013 #87

You really are not making any sense.... Logical Oct 2013 #89

Of course anyone using a chainsaw or a ladder need to know the safety issues involved. Jenoch Oct 2013 #92

There are much more important topics to spend timew on. I give up. n-t Logical Oct 2013 #93

If there are more important topics, Jenoch Oct 2013 #94

You never did anything really dumb/dangerous at elementary age? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #83

I never did anything remotley similar to this. Jenoch Oct 2013 #84

For the gun nerds Glassunion Oct 2013 #70

Seeing more and more of these motorcycle cops with machine guns. Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #86

Wondering why cops are suddenly so afraid MadAndy Oct 2013 #88