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52. I know it's not you Trumad, who made the statement

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:50 PM

Oct 2013

in the headline. But it got me to thinking of how I could try to explain how faulty that logic is. How's this? If I am out drinking, throwing back shots of rum say, pass out and when I wake up my wallet is gone and my ATM card has been used to empty my account, have I been robbed?
I say yes. So it is in the other example. Just because someone (in most cases a woman) gets drunk and passes out, it is not ok to have sex with her. It's rape. Just like stealing my wallet and emptying my bank account is theft.

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Dear DU Woman--stop throwing back shots of Rum and you won't get raped.... [View all] trumad Oct 2013 OP

. trumad Oct 2013 #1

I've been a feminist for 40+ years now Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #2

Well said. nt LisaLynne Oct 2013 #3

You are, of course, 100% correct. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #4

And her point was only addressed to women Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #25

You are also correct. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #41

If that was indeed the point, one wonders why it was addressed to females only... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #37

Agreed. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #42

And I should have the right to leave my car unlocked with the keys it Freddie Stubbs Oct 2013 #5

What a terribly sad commentary on the general state of the male sex your post is. Zorra Oct 2013 #9

Nice twist of words DragonBorn Oct 2013 #12

every dad should give his daughter similar advice, comfort her if she is a victim, and bury the perp yurbud Oct 2013 #14

No. It implies that if a woman gets drunk it greatly increases the possibility that she'll be raped Zorra Oct 2013 #18

Getting drunk DOES increase the possibility scheming daemons Oct 2013 #29

Please see post #28. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #33

I did.... and the difference between you and me is that I have a college-aged daughter scheming daemons Oct 2013 #40

Obviously, the major relevant difference between you and me in assessing this subject is that Zorra Oct 2013 #48

congrats on surviving risky behavior unscathed scheming daemons Oct 2013 #49

You can drive home wearing a seatbelt, and, goddess forbid, get in a head on Zorra Oct 2013 #55

make sure to also mercuryblues Oct 2013 #31

maintaining situational awareness is always good advice scheming daemons Oct 2013 #51

The backlash mercuryblues Oct 2013 #59

Just because you can fuck the drunk girl doesn't mean it's wise lapislzi Oct 2013 #36

who said otherwise? scheming daemons Oct 2013 #50

Goes both ways joeglow3 Oct 2013 #35

But the person who steals your car Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #20

Thank you! Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #27

You do. And if someone steals it, they're considered a criminal JHB Oct 2013 #24

This idea expands to many more areas PowerToThePeople Oct 2013 #7

As long as PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #8

That's not good enough. Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #10

I know PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #16

In other words, men cannot help themselves? KitSileya Oct 2013 #38

That's it get the red out Oct 2013 #53

Thank you. Warpy Oct 2013 #56

The world is filled with predators Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #6

Most rapists know their victims n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #11

And this fact should be part of predator awareness. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #19

there should be two separate discussions: how to keep men from raping and how to keep women away yurbud Oct 2013 #13

Sometimes it doesn't even pipi_k Oct 2013 #15

Scary story, has anybody suggested that she look into local martial arts schools? apnu Oct 2013 #17

Will have to wait pipi_k Oct 2013 #23

Martial arts do work. apnu Oct 2013 #26

Has anyone ever written an editorial advising store-owners not to tempt shoplifters? WinkyDink Oct 2013 #21

Don't store owners take some precautions? The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #60

I do get it. But there seems to be a dearth of advice for men not to rape. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #61

Coconut rum? KamaAina Oct 2013 #22

Damn it, I'll get as drunk as I want to, whenever I want to. I'll Zorra Oct 2013 #28

Best post ever on this subject. trumad Oct 2013 #30

Thanks for getting it, trumad. Zorra Oct 2013 #32

No thank you for getting it. trumad Oct 2013 #34

Well said. Paladin Oct 2013 #39

+100000000000 NuclearDem Oct 2013 #45

Thank You!!! n/t retread Oct 2013 #58

There are lots of excellent reasons to not MissMillie Oct 2013 #43

You forgot one thing trumad Oct 2013 #44

It can be MissMillie Oct 2013 #47

More concern trolling about rape. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #46

I know it's not you Trumad, who made the statement Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #52

Is it OK to suggest that it is never a good idea for anyone to get so drunk that when they wake up, Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #54

I think "warning" is ok. But you can't then BLAME someone for not "listening to warnings". DireStrike Oct 2013 #57