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Pretzel_Warrior

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20. No. I understand Dems wanting more progressive candidates

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 04:16 PM

Oct 2013

But the OP just sounds desperate to push a straw man that Dems only elect charismatic corporatist insiders.

Barack Obama certainly wouldn't qualify for that designation when he ran in 2008.

But I find it interesting some of these threads are like fly paper.

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I know! Let's just keep voting for the most charismatic corporatist we can find... [View all] polichick Oct 2013 OP

And by 'establishment dem' you mean 'person who can get a lot of votes' nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #1

LOL - thanks for the example. polichick Oct 2013 #4

people who get a lot of votes and support become the establishment geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10

That must be why the New Deal is so forgotten. Octafish Oct 2013 #58

Hmmm....so should I NOT vote or throw away my vote? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #14

I guess winning the moral vote is more important, eh? nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #9

So who do you suggest? Rex Oct 2013 #2

Thread should have ended right here, and waited for an answer to your quesiton. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #51

I figured we could have a good discussion. Rex Oct 2013 #63

I know! Let's just keep voting for the most left-wing liberal we can find... brooklynite Oct 2013 #3

we're just part of the "Surrender Caucus" nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5

The fact the House is in play for 2014 is making some people shit purple. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #17

Good point Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #26

Ratfucking 101--drive down the vote with 'concerns' from the 'Left.' Not that I think the OP msanthrope Oct 2013 #31

We'll be seeing a lot of this between now and 14. We're so used to the raging okaawhatever Oct 2013 #60

HELL YEAH... let's have another George McGovern moment. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #23

Thread Winner. Sorry it's such a crappy prize Number23 Oct 2013 #45

Well, since our elections are based on the popular vote, MineralMan Oct 2013 #6

Our elections are based on the Electoral College vote; Presidential elections are. Th1onein Oct 2013 #38

The Presidential Election MineralMan Oct 2013 #49

But we are talking about the presidential election when we talk about Hillary. Th1onein Oct 2013 #68

This might be the funniest thread on DU right now!! Wait. You meant that, right? nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #7

Hell yeah - charismatic, connected corporatists are the only way to go! polichick Oct 2013 #12

Well, are you going to name the Messiah who will save us? nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #15

The OP appears unable / unwilling to think that far ahead. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #53

Ahahaha! You seem especially wound up today Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #8

You Better Believe It!!! nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #11

Lol Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16

I get it! Because pushing for more progressive candidates means not being a Democrat! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #18

A lot of Dems are such pawns of the current system they can't... polichick Oct 2013 #19

Russel, is that you? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21

At least he's not a loyal pawn. polichick Oct 2013 #24

But Russell Brand is a wanker. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #32

No. I understand Dems wanting more progressive candidates Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #20

Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Arne Duncan, drone strikes NuclearDem Oct 2013 #34

For President? I think he is. You've got to win a lot Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #36

It is rather disconcerting. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #29

Pushing means what? treestar Oct 2013 #56

I didn't vote for a "charismatic corporatist" BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #13

I guess you haven't heard. Wilms Oct 2013 #22

They said liberal! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #30

Well the Race to the Top and Common Core Curriculum pushing constitutional lawyer has liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #41

You need to work on your definitions. Just sayin'. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #55

I don't need to work on anything. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #59

Enjoy your stay. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #62

"charismatic corporatist" in the op isn't just about this president... polichick Oct 2013 #65

well frankly: 1. Obviously you are right about the situation. 2. What is the viable alternative? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #25

For now they have us by the balls. But I think that's where the "revolution" comes in... polichick Oct 2013 #54

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #27

That your user name is quoting the originator of the Monroe Doctrine is an inside History msanthrope Oct 2013 #35

We'll do just that Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #28

Over and over and over... polichick Oct 2013 #37

I get what your saying Arcanetrance Oct 2013 #33

YES!!! Becuase we have "moved on" from educated positions on POLICY... bvar22 Oct 2013 #39

"to blindly following whoever the TV says is a Democrat!"... polichick Oct 2013 #43

I hope so. bvar22 Oct 2013 #47

Might have to do with a "joiner" mentality... polichick Oct 2013 #48

And let's check those birth certificates before we do, too! SamYeager Oct 2013 #40

Hmmm Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #42

Clinton '16! obxhead Oct 2013 #44

I will vote for any Democrat that earns my vote. Maedhros Oct 2013 #46

I know! Let's douse ourselves in gasoline and set ourselves alight to stay warm ... struggle4progress Oct 2013 #50

Answer the question in post #2 ... you had to see it. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #52

Any charisma corporatists may ever have held for me ... Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #57

I'll vote for Hillary Clinton if she runs BKH70041 Oct 2013 #61

Well, you should be thrilled with the TPP! polichick Oct 2013 #64

Well we know Al Gore can win, should we ask him to go for it again? Rex Oct 2013 #66

Doubt he's interested. But I'd like to think we could choose... polichick Oct 2013 #67