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114. The bottom line is that, regardless of the choice you make,
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 04:30 PM
Oct 2013

it is a choice. Reproductive rights begins and ends with respecting the choices we all make. I feel fortunate to have birthed two fine children and to have raised them to become responsible and caring adults. I now watch my grandchildren growing. This choice has been a rewarding one for me. Whatever path someone else chooses should be just as satisfying for them. I

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Never did want em and being over 50 yo I still don't want any ...even L0oniX Oct 2013 #1
heehee PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #3
PC is way over rated. L0oniX Oct 2013 #4
That reminds me PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #5
Another reason to like Bill Maher Plucketeer Oct 2013 #46
I only knew pipi_k Oct 2013 #12
Don't you just love it when they scream at the top of their lungs... virgdem Oct 2013 #70
I had a similar situation in a restaurant Awknid Oct 2013 #87
I would have answered: "So what happened to make you decide you didn't need to socialize your kids? Squinch Oct 2013 #113
well said. i had 1 child. i'm 72 DesertFlower Oct 2013 #133
"Do you want me to KILL him?" a mom screamed at me once in a restaurant. Peregrine Took Oct 2013 #158
To be honest, I can't stand kids either. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #20
I have a phobia of small children. Infants too. Chan790 Oct 2013 #29
Yeah PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #36
I actually like kids, but never had any desire for my own. Squinch Oct 2013 #112
I also like kids, and have to admit to entertaining the thought in my 30's. In retrospect, I feel adirondacker Oct 2013 #174
In my city neighborhood parents bring them into dark, candlelit restaurants. Peregrine Took Oct 2013 #157
I knew by the age of ten Warpy Oct 2013 #35
As someone who SheilaT Oct 2013 #2
My MIL passed not long ago, leaving behind a beautiful young daughter Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #8
people do that with everything though hfojvt Oct 2013 #33
Bingo! SheilaT Oct 2013 #175
our society has a superiority complex. We have to feel to superior to someone so we can feel better liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #73
+1000 cyberswede Oct 2013 #77
I'm not seeing any disparaging of people who have kids in this. Squinch Oct 2013 #115
Not in this article, but the sentiment is common enough Orrex Oct 2013 #138
As is the sentiment that people who don't have children are selfish. But if that sentiment Squinch Oct 2013 #143
"That seemed to me like a very selective umbrage." Orrex Oct 2013 #144
What makes the term "breeder" a denigration? Squinch Oct 2013 #145
Context Orrex Oct 2013 #146
So the term itself is not a denigration. Squinch Oct 2013 #147
Nor is any word, in itself. What's your point? Orrex Oct 2013 #148
That the term itself is not a denigration. Squinch Oct 2013 #149
No shit. Neither is "bitch" or "pussy" What's your point? Orrex Oct 2013 #150
You said the term was a denigration. It isn't. Squinch Oct 2013 #151
You can't be serious Orrex Oct 2013 #152
When ever someone tells me they don't want kids, i congratulate them hedgehog Oct 2013 #6
2. "You'll change your mind." Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2013 #7
I can answer that one. kentauros Oct 2013 #63
If we had a nickel for every time ~that~ happens... pauliedangerously Oct 2013 #72
breeders cyberswede Oct 2013 #75
I hate that rude, derogatory term laundry_queen Oct 2013 #83
So do I. cyberswede Oct 2013 #88
ha! I get that a lot. laundry_queen Oct 2013 #92
that is a hateful thing to say. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #96
"superior lifestyle of non-breeders" BULLSHIT! GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #164
Thank you. SheilaT Oct 2013 #176
Anybody who doesn't know couples who should never have become parents...... Paladin Oct 2013 #9
"I love my friends' children. Because I don't have to take care of them." Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #10
Of the three pipi_k Oct 2013 #17
I sort of hate to point this out, SheilaT Oct 2013 #177
Actually enjoy traveling more with kids. efhmc Oct 2013 #198
A lot of married people see it as selfish, they like you and think there should be more of you... uponit7771 Oct 2013 #11
When the truth is there are definitely times when the opposite is true. cui bono Oct 2013 #15
My thoughts exactly... pipi_k Oct 2013 #22
so many ways of having children Chaco Dundee Oct 2013 #50
Yep... pipi_k Oct 2013 #58
my thoughts Chaco Dundee Oct 2013 #80
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2013 #28
Yup. I've been told I was selfish for not wanting kids. bobja Oct 2013 #34
Yeah I heard "selfish" mentioned recently by a coworker too DaveJ Oct 2013 #78
Having kids is not for everyone. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #89
Not to my face, she said "her sister thinks" kidless people are selfish DaveJ Oct 2013 #94
Thank god my kids slept a lot later than that. SheilaT Oct 2013 #179
Heh. I'm with you, there. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #187
That just bamboozles me. I hear it reasonably often too. I don't choose the lifestyle Squinch Oct 2013 #120
I've seen those who want kids termed selfish. SheilaT Oct 2013 #178
After my parents split, my father disappeared...I'd hear regularly.."We shouldn't have had children" Tikki Oct 2013 #13
I can relate to that Awknid Oct 2013 #95
Once..you grow to understand, maybe even twice…but many times sends a message... Tikki Oct 2013 #98
Yikes! Bay Boy Oct 2013 #99
I married into the best, kindest, real family.. Tikki Oct 2013 #100
I've never once had a desire to have kids, but I can remember as a little girl thinking about cui bono Oct 2013 #14
You have nicely summed up SheilaT Oct 2013 #180
Hell, if a stranger gave me crap for choosing to not have kids, I would give them crap for having cui bono Oct 2013 #16
If a stranger gave me crap for having kids Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #109
Sometimes nothing is stated but you get that look like.... Peregrine Took Oct 2013 #159
Useless eaters get the red out Oct 2013 #161
What?? SheilaT Oct 2013 #181
I'm a male in my early 30s. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #18
Honesty is best... pipi_k Oct 2013 #27
Hey! Me too! n/t Chan790 Oct 2013 #31
I went through that too PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #38
That is not selfish at all get the red out Oct 2013 #53
Been there! dorkzilla Oct 2013 #106
How wonderful that the nieces and nephews adored you. SheilaT Oct 2013 #182
I love my daughters immensely.... but this parenting shit is HARD scheming daemons Oct 2013 #19
+1! Cha Oct 2013 #139
I have two sons. SheilaT Oct 2013 #183
Cats are cheaper and easier to train. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #21
No way. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #68
Compared to kids? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #82
In my experience antiquie Oct 2013 #153
Cats are cheaper, but NOT easier to train. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #165
I love children... GliderGuider Oct 2013 #23
You need PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #40
"That's selfish" is not on the list? Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #24
Oh yes get the red out Oct 2013 #39
I don't need to have children; but if I wanted to raise children, I'd adopt of foster. haele Oct 2013 #25
I appreciate your choice and am glad you are Skidmore Oct 2013 #26
The sermonizing comes at us also get the red out Oct 2013 #42
The bottom line is that, regardless of the choice you make, Skidmore Oct 2013 #114
^^^^^^thank you^^^^^^^^ zazen Oct 2013 #59
Our country in general and corporate culture specifically could do a way better job of supporting Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #110
The lack of support for SheilaT Oct 2013 #184
Did she compare having kids to being in a gang bang? joeglow3 Oct 2013 #30
Actually.... no get the red out Oct 2013 #49
No. Iggo Oct 2013 #81
Never wanted kids, but had two. RebelOne Oct 2013 #32
Prepare Rover1 Oct 2013 #52
So WTF does that mean? Love some elaboration... Agschmid Oct 2013 #61
I think it means that culturally, you get what you give. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #97
I think having children as a "retirement plan" is unfair to the children. Squinch Oct 2013 #127
especially daughters, since it is assumed they will take on the burden bettyellen Oct 2013 #135
Which, in most cases, they must. And this becomes part of the argument that is being made Squinch Oct 2013 #142
Yep, it's like claiming none of this is "work" because there is no paycheck!!! bettyellen Oct 2013 #156
Depends on the culture. In the United States, it is the daughters. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #163
in America is seems to fall heavily on the daughters, it did in my case bettyellen Oct 2013 #170
Truth. My mother was the "main person" including dealing with the paperwork. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #171
I believe I covered that in my post. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #162
More to the point, those who don't have kids, SheilaT Oct 2013 #185
Truth at all levels. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #197
I have invested plenty in my kids. RebelOne Oct 2013 #103
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #118
Thanks for posting this get the red out Oct 2013 #37
You are welcome! PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #43
I belong to one also get the red out Oct 2013 #51
I'm 49 too! PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #124
I don't know what else this was all for if not children LittleBlue Oct 2013 #41
I never wanted to get married or have kids and I love my life! Walk away Oct 2013 #130
Wow. There are a lot of people on this thread who hated themselves Fawke Em Oct 2013 #44
If you really want to know... pipi_k Oct 2013 #48
Same here. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #55
The amnesia thing... pipi_k Oct 2013 #62
I'm very fortunate in that regard GliderGuider Oct 2013 #66
If that's the case, then... pipi_k Oct 2013 #71
Wow. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #191
I do not hate children get the red out Oct 2013 #56
You have a dog in your profile.q Fawke Em Oct 2013 #192
I don't fully understand your response get the red out Oct 2013 #196
That is so illogical PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #123
Not really, since I remember when I was three. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #193
That makes very little sense. Squinch Oct 2013 #126
It makes little sense to hate people who aren't adults, too. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #194
If men say they don't want kids, they're looked upon as a sage of some sort. AAO Oct 2013 #45
Because women have time limits on childbearing & men don't (except for death). johnlucas Oct 2013 #131
"Oh, but you'll change you mind once you HAVE a baby! You'll fall in love with it." kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #47
I think what most of them don't know pipi_k Oct 2013 #54
if you have a shortage, I must have a surplus laundry_queen Oct 2013 #93
You probably pipi_k Oct 2013 #169
I have never been able to handle the screaming, or the very idea of diapers. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #116
Good point. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #108
The world would be a much better place if the people who don't WANT kids kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #117
I agree 100%. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #119
Thankfully I am too old for these stupid comments now. redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #57
I think I may skip this thread. I've seen some pretty nasty remarks made to parents in these kinds liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #60
You mean you don't like being called a "breeder" and hearing about your "spawn"? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #85
I've always admired good parents Awknid Oct 2013 #101
I do not give people who chose to have kids a hard time. redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #104
I have two kids, and two grandkids, and they're all great. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #64
Childless is not by choice get the red out Oct 2013 #86
"Child-free" is a hostile response to the negativity of "childless" BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #155
Thanks for the very well-thought-out and written post. I agree. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #160
ROFL '...my body is also capable of a gang bang...' CarrieLynne Oct 2013 #65
These silly responses seemingly always come from those locdlib Oct 2013 #67
Your position is noble. FrodosPet Oct 2013 #69
I can come up with better. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #74
people who honestly give a shit how other people choose to live their lives Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #76
What's the fun in that? (kidding) DaveJ Oct 2013 #84
well said. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #90
They are numerous though get the red out Oct 2013 #91
EVERYONE is deficient in some fundamental way FrodosPet Oct 2013 #102
There is a wide chasm between consideration for others and lecturing them about their personal lives Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #105
I love kids. Iggo Oct 2013 #79
It's still a blast to go through the motions. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #125
i had 1 child with my first husband. DesertFlower Oct 2013 #107
Hi, I'm Dorkzilla, I'm 48 and childfree by choice (hullo Dorkzilla)... dorkzilla Oct 2013 #111
Main reason to have kids: Immortality jeff47 Oct 2013 #121
Someone had to do it... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #122
That is hilarious! Brigid Oct 2013 #134
I cannot begin to imagine having a child SheilaT Oct 2013 #186
Tantrums aren't unique to humans as any parrot owner will tell you. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #188
My parents claim my sister and I didn't throw tantrums in public kcr Oct 2013 #190
Childfree Polly Hennessey Oct 2013 #128
Best decision ever! mentalsolstice Oct 2013 #129
I'm past the point now, kiva Oct 2013 #132
I have to say: Being a (single) parent was very hard. panader0 Oct 2013 #136
Childless, but not necessarily by choice. Brigid Oct 2013 #137
I admire people who deliberately choose to be child-free steve2470 Oct 2013 #140
I wish my mother never had children. Ino Oct 2013 #141
~ antiquie Oct 2013 #154
amen and thank you! magical thyme Oct 2013 #166
"It's a blast!"???????????? MissMillie Oct 2013 #167
happily willfully barren loyalsister Oct 2013 #168
I'm a 42 year old woman who is childfree and I hear this stupid shit all the time! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #172
"You're not a real woman until you're a mother" LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #173
To me, now that I am 65, SheilaT Oct 2013 #189
I get the "what will you do when you're old" line quite a bit. Marr Oct 2013 #195
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