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45. ^^^^^^^^^^This is the correct answer.^^^^^^^^^

Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:49 AM

Oct 2013

This should be an OP. We had a very brief period a few months ago when the country seemed to be waking up to the divide and conquer game of corporatists. We were united across party lines against NSA spying and watched the ugly spectacle of corporate Dems and Republicans joining together in desperation to defend it. We fought back across party lines against bombing Syria. We seemed to be waking to the partisan scam being used to divide us and realizing that there is power in standing for issues and principles rather than party.

Then the PTB successfully diverted us to partisan talk about the fake budget crises, and the wagons got circled again. Now all the talk is partisan again.

It's a scam, and we need to stop playing the game.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 OP

And the side with momey will always win these tug-of-wars n/t Scootaloo Oct 2013 #1

There are no atheists in the foxholes RobertEarl Oct 2013 #2

Except libertarians don't support your rights Scootaloo Oct 2013 #3

I had a girlfriend like that RobertEarl Oct 2013 #5

I tend to not bother talkign constitution on the internet Scootaloo Oct 2013 #8

Really? the constitution is beyond you? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #9

That's not what I said. I said it's not worth bothering to discuss it on the internet Scootaloo Oct 2013 #15

That's not what Scootaloo claimed at all. Scootaloo clearly explains that in BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #53

Oops. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #54

Ugh. You sure do love twisting people's words, don't you? Go back and reread what Scootaloo BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #56

How 'bout you? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #61

What you mean to say is, can I discuss *your* version of the Constitution? BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #69

Hahahaha RobertEarl Oct 2013 #72

The John Birch Society (JBS) is an American political advocacy group that supports anti-communism... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #79

Hi, vanilla, what 'bout you? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #82

that no...if Osama Bin Laden said he supported my rights....i wouldn't trust him... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #93

Libertarians are whack jobs AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #100

"There are no atheists in the foxholes." - I hate that idiotic statement more and more each day. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #4

You'll learn to like it one day? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #6

Saving your ass does not equal having a religious conversion after decades of non-belief. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #7

Well, RobertEarl Oct 2013 #11

Yes...all religious zealots ARE the enemy! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #81

Sounds paranoid RobertEarl Oct 2013 #85

Not paranoid...ALL fundamentalists (thus zealots) are dangerous... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #90

Libertarians don't fight conglomerates; some of their biggest supporters, pnwmom Oct 2013 #13

Yeah RobertEarl Oct 2013 #14

Democratic party people still believe in good government. pnwmom Oct 2013 #19

Mostly they are selfish RobertEarl Oct 2013 #21

But they don't care about liberty or freedom in general. pnwmom Oct 2013 #25

dkf's banning stirred up on the hornet's nest. Might as well give up for now. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #29

Oh really... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #83

Libertarians holler about civil liberties and freedom, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #63

+1 gollygee Oct 2013 #96

That's not the idea of the phrase. DireStrike Oct 2013 #64

Yes. I did. Do. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #70

Reagan and Bush were centrist and moderate? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #84

No that is NOT what that is about... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #80

Absolutely, RobertEarl. Th1onein Oct 2013 #10

Their views on the government's role and on economics trump everything else, pnwmom Oct 2013 #12

Yep RobertEarl Oct 2013 #16

Yep. Any efforts against government policies we don't like should not BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #17

Above the heads? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #23

The author is not in favor of the NSA spying. Read it again. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #28

We disagree about the author then RobertEarl Oct 2013 #30

You didn't even know what the "athiests in a foxhole" was about.....why should we consider VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #88

Wow, Are you on the attack or what? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #91

no I call it pointing out the fallacy... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #92

Hello, BSB. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #50

Why does the Dem Leadership appoint Republicans to positions of sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #32

What does that have to do with the political and economic philosophy of libertarians? pnwmom Oct 2013 #43

I'm trying to find out what the standards are regarding what we have been told sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #46

It's like Fox news from these people RobertEarl Oct 2013 #65

+ Infinity with a cherry on top. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #78

Now you have seen it come full circle...the Anarchists are defending the Libertarians! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #89

ah baloney...thats an old wives tale... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #77

This is ridiculous Oilwellian Oct 2013 #18

Is it an attempt to divide us? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #20

Of course that's what this is Oilwellian Oct 2013 #22

Yes. RobertEarl Oct 2013 #24

Libertarians don't share our ideals. The only freedom they want is pnwmom Oct 2013 #31

Republicans share our ideals far less than some Libertarians. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #35

IMHO, there are two kinds of libertarians, the ones who call themselves pnwmom Oct 2013 #41

I also think we should not align with Republicans like Hagel and Clapper but they got Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #48

I don't like every decision Obama has ever made, pnwmom Oct 2013 #76

So what is your standard? It's ok to appoint Republicans just never march with any? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #95

Lots of Dems voted just like he did. Not "for" the Iraq war pnwmom Oct 2013 #97

And then there are those who are, and do not fit either of those definitions nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #51

No, it's a fear that if the people ever unite instead of REMAIN sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #33

I see your point, Sabrina RobertEarl Oct 2013 #38

Oh, I like the way you ended that Oilwellian Oct 2013 #40

^^^^^^^^^^This is the correct answer.^^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2013 #45

+1. jsr Oct 2013 #47

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #52

+1000. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #26

Be afraid. Be so very very afraid. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #27

Fuck libertarian rand paul's sneaky shit. and that goes for hacker snowden too. Cha Oct 2013 #34

And fuck all the Democrats who are participating? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #37

I doubt Obama would like what Cha has written RobertEarl Oct 2013 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #49

+ 1000 ^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #55

Agreed. The same goes for the slimy domestic NSA spying program! Pholus Oct 2013 #74

I'm participating online & fuck you to any one who tries to scare me with McCarthy tactics. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #36

What a sick post. Corporate Democrats urging us NOT to fight the shredding of our Constitution, woo me with science Oct 2013 #42

corporatist Democrats giving advice reddread Oct 2013 #44

Another thread of this bullshit? You are working real hard to stop anti-spying protests Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #58

Why do you keep avoiding the facts? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #60

K&R! BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #59

I will ally with anyone who opposes the spy state LittleBlue Oct 2013 #62

The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #66

This threat is so dire that it actually is, to me. nt LittleBlue Oct 2013 #67

Indeed. I am reminded of this-- msanthrope Oct 2013 #71

I'm always careful LittleBlue Oct 2013 #73

Really? You think the NSA is the most serious threat to a free society in your msanthrope Oct 2013 #75

Unquestionably. nt LittleBlue Oct 2013 #98

+100000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #86

Thank you. We need to ally with ALL AMERICANS to stop this. nt woo me with science Oct 2013 #87

DU rec...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #68

LOL I'm a big girl... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #94

K&R For the Anti-Hypocrisy League Fumesucker Oct 2013 #99

So what are your "core principles"? OutNow Oct 2013 #101