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Enthusiast

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36. We have seen this bullshit act before.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 01:57 PM
Oct 2013

It doesn't end well. Hey, we have been American consumers all our lives.

And it's a solely Republican endeavor, not a Democratic Party one. Let's make that clear. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #1
Also Pre-Paid Benefits LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #5
Considering we draw more than we put in, BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #16
Interest. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #97
Excellent expose, JD. Perhaps we should all send a copy of this to our Senators and Congressmen. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #116
Don't forget! Just a few years ago, Obama thought that Social Security was in such good shape JDPriestly Oct 2013 #118
Medicaid is already means-tested. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #98
I dont have a problem with the word, I paid into it, I'm entitled to it. 7962 Oct 2013 #23
Perception is king. Republicans have successfully marketed the word, "entitlement", as BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #44
The purpose of making the word entitlement pejorative was also to distort the numbers. When you okaawhatever Oct 2013 #59
From: 9 Democrats who are selling out on Social Security cuts jtuck004 Oct 2013 #38
There is zero reason for Democrats to wade in the Republican cesspool of cutting benefits BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #40
"Even Orly Taitz got more votes than Strimling did" jtuck004 Oct 2013 #47
Well, I can chuckle about it now, but I was incensed back then. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #49
Feinstein is a horror story. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #100
But one that not very many Californians know about. And we've got to change that BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #117
Except that... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #60
He did? Do you have a link to that report? eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #66
. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #71
Are you saying that these people are not Democrats? (I agree by the way, but Washington doesn't) Dragonfli Oct 2013 #69
Unfortunately, no, it's not solely a Republican endeavor. It's in Obama's budget. cui bono Oct 2013 #77
Can you provide a link so I can read it myself? eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #81
Here, Dragonfli had it posted above: cui bono Oct 2013 #85
Solely a Republican effort? Orsino Oct 2013 #80
Not so BlueCali bamasher Oct 2013 #82
what are you talking about? Doctor_J Oct 2013 #86
Entitlement Reform = Benefit Reduction leftstreet Oct 2013 #2
Thank you. Reform does mean cut. Entitlement is meant as a demeaning slur. djean111 Oct 2013 #3
How about "I want to REFORM SS/Medicare to SAVE it." CTyankee Oct 2013 #17
K&R It is well past time to demand more from Democrats. woo me with science Oct 2013 #4
Democrats are wimps bamasher Oct 2013 #83
Thanks, but I have to disagree that corporate Democrats are wimps. woo me with science Oct 2013 #87
I distinctly remember that Obama favored raising the cap in the 2004 debates with Hillary. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #102
Conservative Democrats always appear more 'progressive' when campaigning. NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #113
Here's what ProSense Oct 2013 #6
K&R for your post and the OP DJ13 Oct 2013 #10
The Semantics War homegirl Oct 2013 #7
Personally, like "Obamacare", I really don't care what things get called bhikkhu Oct 2013 #9
You earned it, you're entitled to it. Take it up with those who wrote the Social Security Act. n/t duffyduff Oct 2013 #52
Of course you are more or less right, but the devil is in the details bhikkhu Oct 2013 #8
I don't know why you would expect Enthusiast Oct 2013 #13
Because that's what the president said bhikkhu Oct 2013 #25
I used to trust the President. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #30
Because the past is not the present bhikkhu Oct 2013 #32
But there are ulterior motives involved. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #35
I wouldn't say that's the only reason bhikkhu Oct 2013 #61
"More progressive" = means testing. Means testing and cutting benefits weakens the program. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #70
Means testing isn't evil, its progressive, as you say bhikkhu Oct 2013 #75
We must primary any Democrat that votes for Chained CPI. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #90
I don't think any would, realistically bhikkhu Oct 2013 #94
LOL. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #95
Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2013 #89
Means testing makes SS a poor people program Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #107
Yes. That is why it is so disturbing Enthusiast Oct 2013 #114
Yes, the devil is always in the details. QuestForSense Oct 2013 #24
"have to" as in looking at the CBO projections bhikkhu Oct 2013 #29
If there is a problem with Medicare we need to increase its funding. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #33
That's a good sentiment, but if you look at the numbers - how? bhikkhu Oct 2013 #96
Excellent post, QuestForSense! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #31
You have NO understanding of what an "entitlement" IS. duffyduff Oct 2013 #55
Thanks for enlightening me. QuestForSense Oct 2013 #72
more bogus b.s. grasswire Oct 2013 #34
Means testing: bad idea. Abolish the FICA cap: good idea. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #91
means testing bad idea....because....? grasswire Oct 2013 #92
Social Security and Medicare are politically stronger because they benefit everyone. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #93
The projections have consistently proved themselves to be Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #43
Yes, the projections are almost always wrong bhikkhu Oct 2013 #63
K & R! dchill Oct 2013 #11
yep awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #12
K & R historylovr Oct 2013 #14
Cutting the farm bill would be entitlement reform. Can I be for that? Recursion Oct 2013 #15
You, or I, are free to exempt ourselves from a term of art cthulu2016 Oct 2013 #22
SNAP, Food Stamps, are tied to the farm bill. Would you be for cutting food stamps Zorra Oct 2013 #56
Not anymore Recursion Oct 2013 #57
Really? When did that happen? I was under the impression that House Republicans were trying Zorra Oct 2013 #62
As I read up, apparently it's in conference limbo now Recursion Oct 2013 #65
That's what I thought, and I agree about the subsidies. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #76
We should commandeer the term cojoel Oct 2013 #18
It's like when they claim "waste fraud and abuse" but never on no-bid contracts. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #19
"Cost Plus" no-bid contracts. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #37
+1. Cuts to your benefits means more for the 1%, and less for you. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #20
Promises on "strengthening Social Security" bvar22 Oct 2013 #21
Not necessarily - it could me to improve efficiency treestar Oct 2013 #26
Yeah, it's going to be New and Improved. Superlative even. jsr Oct 2013 #27
We have seen this bullshit act before. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #36
+100000000000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #64
I hate the term "entitlement," too. THESE ARE EARNED BENEFITS. Th1onein Oct 2013 #28
Here's a thought. How about a benefit just for being a citizen of the richest country in the world? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #45
Entitlement equals earned. Sick of people who don't understand it. n/t duffyduff Oct 2013 #50
Rather reminds me of Welfare "reform" <- AKA screwing the poorest of the poor. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #39
Exactly - why aren't they proposing to use the CPI-E (the inflation index for elderly people)? Make7 Oct 2013 #41
I remember when it was pointed out the price of gas had doubled.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #46
Fortunately the things elderly people buy are transported by horse drawn buggies. Make7 Oct 2013 #53
They would PREFER to eliminate Social Security and stick em in an old folks home run by a church,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #58
That is included in the Strengthen Social Security bill n/t eridani Oct 2013 #104
Look, we are "entitled" to these benefits for the simple and obvious reason that we "earned" them. RVN VET Oct 2013 #42
It was "reformed" 30 years ago. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #48
Peter J. Peterson owns the White House and Congress. He's a crook, pure and simple. duffyduff Oct 2013 #54
The phrase, "There's a sucker born every minute" caught on for a reason. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #68
+1000000000000000000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #84
Yup, won't go further here than a thumbs up nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #51
If I could accept the good faith of the people arguing about entitlement reform... lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #67
A truly righteous rant. AAO Oct 2013 #73
If any of those bastards mention..... DeSwiss Oct 2013 #74
Is that the case with Medicare? Couldn't entitlement reform pnwmom Oct 2013 #78
Reform has become a code word for dismantle Lordquinton Oct 2013 #79
K&R. Meanwhile, Apple pays virtually no taxes, and it is just one of a number of corporations JDPriestly Oct 2013 #88
That's where the reform needs to happen. I'll bet most Americans aren't aware of the corporations Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #103
Reform always creates the same equation IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #99
Depends. Raise the cap, no benefit loss. joshcryer Oct 2013 #101
There aren't enough "richest" to make even a tiny dent in the system total payouts eridani Oct 2013 #105
C-CPI has a poverty exemption. joshcryer Oct 2013 #106
It's basic math, btw. joshcryer Oct 2013 #108
So what? There is also the productivity math to consider eridani Oct 2013 #110
Not sure about that. joshcryer Oct 2013 #111
Given productivity increases, fewer workers don't matter eridani Oct 2013 #119
Of course, that was the whole intention Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #109
Some things to consider The Wizard Oct 2013 #112
kick woo me with science Oct 2013 #115
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