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In reply to the discussion: FFS... the PURPOSE of ENTITLEMENT REFORM is to REDUCE benefits [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)38. From: 9 Democrats who are selling out on Social Security cuts
Make sure we tell these Democrats that there is no such thing as a Grand Bargain for the people whose hides they will take this out of...
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The National Journal, a leading conservative publication, did a nationwide poll in the first week of the shutdown and tilted its questions to try to show public support for the GOPs intransigence and for cutting entitlements. What it didnt put on its website but was buried in its results (see page 4) was that 76 percent said Social Security should be cut not at all, as opposed to cut a lot or some. Eighty-one percent said Medicare should be cut not at all. And 60 percent replied not at all to cutting Medicaid. These results tracked two otherNational Journal polls done in 2012 and other national surveys.
But, as Sen. Sanders policy aide noted, the mindset in too many Washington circles is taking a completely opposite view. You would expect corporate defenders among the GOP to do what they have been doing since the government reopenedclamoring for cuts to social programs, as their rich benefactors dont need them, and cutting tax rates, which makes wealthy people and businesses even wealthier. Thats what GOP leaders said; theyll end the across-the-board federal cuts known as the sequester if Democrats agree to future cuts in Social Security and Medicare.
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The list of Democrats who are entering these negotiations enbracing the GOPs terms continues. There are at least nine in the Senate. Californias Dianne Feinstein, Montanas Max Baucus, West Virginias Joe Manchin, Delawares Chris Coons and Tom Carper, and Colorados Michael Bennett have all said they support cuts to entitlements in letters to constituents, proposed bills or statements made after the Presidents fiscal reform commission led by Eskine Bowles and Alan Simpson issued its 2010 report proposing capping or cutting entitlements while lowering or eliminating corporate taxes.
No wonder George Will, arguably the nations leading right-wing commentator, also boasted on Fox News Sunday about the upcoming budget negotiation, saying, We are now talking entirely in Republican terms, in Republican vocabulary after this so-called defeat No taxes, how much is spending goung to be cut? The federal workforce is being cut, discretionary domestic spending is being cut And theWall Street Journal quickly capitalized on the division among Democrats with its own report, titled, Budget Discord Simmers Among Democrats.
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Including the President, who says these need to be addressed...
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And it's a solely Republican endeavor, not a Democratic Party one. Let's make that clear.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#1
Excellent expose, JD. Perhaps we should all send a copy of this to our Senators and Congressmen.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#116
Don't forget! Just a few years ago, Obama thought that Social Security was in such good shape
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#118
Perception is king. Republicans have successfully marketed the word, "entitlement", as
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#44
The purpose of making the word entitlement pejorative was also to distort the numbers. When you
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#59
There is zero reason for Democrats to wade in the Republican cesspool of cutting benefits
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#40
But one that not very many Californians know about. And we've got to change that
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#117
Are you saying that these people are not Democrats? (I agree by the way, but Washington doesn't)
Dragonfli
Oct 2013
#69
Unfortunately, no, it's not solely a Republican endeavor. It's in Obama's budget.
cui bono
Oct 2013
#77
I distinctly remember that Obama favored raising the cap in the 2004 debates with Hillary.
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#102
Conservative Democrats always appear more 'progressive' when campaigning.
NorthCarolina
Oct 2013
#113
You earned it, you're entitled to it. Take it up with those who wrote the Social Security Act. n/t
duffyduff
Oct 2013
#52
"More progressive" = means testing. Means testing and cutting benefits weakens the program.
Enthusiast
Oct 2013
#70
Social Security and Medicare are politically stronger because they benefit everyone.
Jim Lane
Oct 2013
#93
SNAP, Food Stamps, are tied to the farm bill. Would you be for cutting food stamps
Zorra
Oct 2013
#56
Really? When did that happen? I was under the impression that House Republicans were trying
Zorra
Oct 2013
#62
It's like when they claim "waste fraud and abuse" but never on no-bid contracts.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2013
#19
Here's a thought. How about a benefit just for being a citizen of the richest country in the world?
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2013
#45
Rather reminds me of Welfare "reform" <- AKA screwing the poorest of the poor. ~nt~
99th_Monkey
Oct 2013
#39
Exactly - why aren't they proposing to use the CPI-E (the inflation index for elderly people)?
Make7
Oct 2013
#41
Fortunately the things elderly people buy are transported by horse drawn buggies.
Make7
Oct 2013
#53
They would PREFER to eliminate Social Security and stick em in an old folks home run by a church,...
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2013
#58
Look, we are "entitled" to these benefits for the simple and obvious reason that we "earned" them.
RVN VET
Oct 2013
#42
Peter J. Peterson owns the White House and Congress. He's a crook, pure and simple.
duffyduff
Oct 2013
#54
The phrase, "There's a sucker born every minute" caught on for a reason.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#68
If I could accept the good faith of the people arguing about entitlement reform...
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2013
#67
K&R. Meanwhile, Apple pays virtually no taxes, and it is just one of a number of corporations
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#88
That's where the reform needs to happen. I'll bet most Americans aren't aware of the corporations
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2013
#103
There aren't enough "richest" to make even a tiny dent in the system total payouts
eridani
Oct 2013
#105