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ancianita

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16. Here's what I've learned that the committee is grappling with.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:47 AM
Oct 2013

"The conference committee was assigned to try to reconcile differences between separate budgets passed earlier this year by the Senate and the House...

...The Senate budget protects Medicare while the House version would end Medicare as we know it by providing coupons for private health insurance. Unlike the House budget, the Senate resolution does not repeal the Affordable Care Act, which would prevent more than 20 million Americans from getting health insurance. The House version would eliminate grants for up to 1 million college students while the Senate plan protects Pell grants. The House version would kick up to 24 million Americans off of Medicaid while the Senate budget would protect their benefits. The Senate budget calls for new revenue while the House version would provide trillions of dollars in tax breaks mainly for the wealthiest Americans and profitable corporations offset by increased taxes on the middle class.

The conference committee includes 14 Democrats, 14 Republicans and two independent senators who caucus with Democrats: Sanders and Sen. Angus King of Maine..."


I can see how public support could offset the lobbyists, since this committee's makeup is evenly partisan.

But the budget differences between the House and Senate show to me the solid hold that the rich and their lobbyists have upon the House. The differences look intractable. Even with public polling. I'm not usually defeatist, but this looks to be more more "budget showdown" activity.

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Done! newfie11 Oct 2013 #1
thank you very much ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #22
If he's so concerned, why doesn't he just veto the "deal" so it doesn't reach the floor! ancianita Oct 2013 #2
I'm sure he will vote against it steve2470 Oct 2013 #3
Is there veto power in that committee? cali Oct 2013 #4
So his is a powerless position. The committee just validates focussed attacks by reps of the rich ancianita Oct 2013 #5
He has only so much power...he needs citizens to rise up and revolt steve2470 Oct 2013 #8
Yes, he is the very best. And that's what makes this citizen backup call so bothersome to me. ancianita Oct 2013 #11
yeah, imagine that, he's not all powerful. shocking. cali Oct 2013 #10
I've looked around. Perhaps you could post an informative link? ancianita Oct 2013 #12
well, here are the Senate Rules with lots of links cali Oct 2013 #15
But being on the committee, all ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #25
There are 8 groups involved, forming a coalition. Sounds like a good cause. madfloridian Oct 2013 #7
Of course it's good.I'm just frustrated at its eternal 'cause' status because of relentless attacks. ancianita Oct 2013 #13
I don't trust either party on this. Maybe it should be a really big issue. madfloridian Oct 2013 #14
I don't trust either party, either, especially with the current committee makeup. ancianita Oct 2013 #18
Can you tell me who is on that committee and which of them cause your trepidation? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #24
Sure. ancianita Oct 2013 #26
Mark Warner "Democrats are going to have to give on entitlement reform." madfloridian Oct 2013 #33
Nope. Me, neither. And we don't have to give on one damned bit of any of it. nt ancianita Oct 2013 #38
There are at least 9 groups involved, because NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #21
Done and donated. madfloridian Oct 2013 #6
yvw ! :) nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #9
Here's what I've learned that the committee is grappling with. ancianita Oct 2013 #16
Call me naive but I still believe that a tidal wave of phone calls, emails, letters etc work steve2470 Oct 2013 #17
You're right. Yet, look at these 29 and tell me some of these Dems will stop ancianita Oct 2013 #19
I think with enough phone calls etc, they will stop steve2470 Oct 2013 #20
I understand about not watching it too closely. And sorry to ask, but can you link the list? TIA. freshwest Oct 2013 #44
Not a problem. ancianita Oct 2013 #49
Thanks! freshwest Oct 2013 #51
Please keep this kicked, this is near and dear to my heart and should be to all DU'ers imho nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #23
gospel.... spanone Oct 2013 #27
Not to mention the millions contributed by immigrants who won't see any return. ancianita Oct 2013 #39
I agree with Sanders K&R (nt) Babel_17 Oct 2013 #28
K&R, sign up everyone and call...will likely take a lot more effort so get prepared. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #29
It's time to slam the brakes on the Democratic party's drift to the right. raindaddy Oct 2013 #30
Democrats have always tried to walk a tightrope.......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #62
WORD!!! bvar22 Oct 2013 #31
if you do Twitter, retweet this link please: steve2470 Oct 2013 #32
K&R, of course. nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #34
Is this email online on Sander's website? I want to post it on a board that requires a direct link. freshwest Oct 2013 #35
not seeing it at Bernie's site so far steve2470 Oct 2013 #36
here's something: steve2470 Oct 2013 #37
Here it is on the "Recent Business" page of his site. I quoted part of this earlier. ancianita Oct 2013 #40
That should work! Thanks! freshwest Oct 2013 #43
for right now, this is the best I can do: steve2470 Oct 2013 #42
I'll try to get a search result for Progressives United, thanks. freshwest Oct 2013 #46
Okay, found this link. Lot of information, almost impossible for me to access any of it. freshwest Oct 2013 #50
Yep, and everyone who wants to cut social security needs to STFU with their BS. Zorra Oct 2013 #41
rec! SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Tikki Oct 2013 #47
Thanks for a timely thread, needs to be front burner. I know M$M won't help get the word out. freshwest Oct 2013 #48
Doing my little part to keep this kicked. Jasana Oct 2013 #52
thank you very much !!!!! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #53
Twitter is blocking the site 'www.americawantsnocuts.com sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #54
I can't sign Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #55
thanks a lot ! you rock ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #56
Only official link I have found is the Progressive Caucus...and Bernie is the only Senator listed. libdem4life Oct 2013 #57
This was sent out by a PAC committee, signed by Sen. Sanders steve2470 Oct 2013 #58
So glad to see this Liberal Treasure become unleashed...and even getting some press. Times may libdem4life Oct 2013 #59
humpty bump for visibility nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #60
kick nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #61
another kick nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #63
K&R Same vicious scam. woo me with science Oct 2013 #64
kick nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #65
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