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treestar

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60. He is looking out for Americans of all kinds.

Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:59 AM

Oct 2013

He wants unemployment to go down.

Clearly he has a different view than others and it would be interesting to hear more about it so as to hear both sides regarding this treaty.

Also it's apparently not finished.

There's going to be international trade. These treaties are a matter of regulation. Each nation that is a party to them is going to look out for its own best interests in making the agreement.

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Why Do You Think President Obama Supports The TPP? [View all] polichick Oct 2013 OP

Corporations DURHAM D Oct 2013 #1

Exactly. Cleita Oct 2013 #5

I don't know. I'll need to hear more about it from all sides. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #2

Fast tracking it might mean we won't hear much until it's a done deal. polichick Oct 2013 #6

the odds are STRONGLY against TPA being passed n/t cali Oct 2013 #83

Good thing! polichick Oct 2013 #108

Why did Bill Clinton support NAFTA ?? After orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #3

He's fallen for the free market claptrap. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #4

Obama supports the Tea Party Patriots? ashtonelijah Oct 2013 #7

One% party, two faces? polichick Oct 2013 #8

Corporate Liberals . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #12

The packaging is fascinating... polichick Oct 2013 #14

Blurring the definition of us and them and Friend and foe. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #18

Yep - what we end up with is a whole nation of... polichick Oct 2013 #21

Exactly. Outrages that would stick in our craws can be pushed out as long as Nay Oct 2013 #90

Huh? The Tea Party opposes trade vocally. Recursion Oct 2013 #43

I have never heard a peep from the Tea Party on trade.........nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #64

Then you aren't listening, at all. NAFTA (and now TPP) and immigration are their two bete noires Recursion Oct 2013 #65

Again, the Tea Party has not made a peep about free trade or the TPP. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #75

Yes, they really have. It's easy to go read what they say online Recursion Oct 2013 #79

Recursion is correct. cali Oct 2013 #84

I have never heard a peep from the Tea Party about trade agreements. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #92

it's not that hard to find- and seeing as there's very little in the press cali Oct 2013 #94

Let me guess. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #99

sure, I think that's part of it, but I think it goes hand in hand cali Oct 2013 #101

Corporate control is the Black Beast . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #116

He thinks it will improve our economy Cicada Oct 2013 #9

There's no such thing as free trade, just regulated capitalism KeepItReal Oct 2013 #11

Yep. Even Paul Krugman. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #16

It only undermines the higher worker standard of living and replaces it with less. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #66

It's a good idea on paper, we should try it out sometime. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #68

Korea had picky safety regulations that kept my employer's electronics out of their market... Kolesar Oct 2013 #10

That is useful information. Thank you. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #51

First: He is the first US president truly oriented toward Pacific/Asia, due to his upbringing Hekate Oct 2013 #13

I also spent part of my childhood in Hawaii as well as my college years. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #15

Right. He's not doing this to spite the American worker. He's trying to make the US engage with... Hekate Oct 2013 #17

Outsourcing, and the 1% moving To & Fro . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #20

That's all you've got? Hekate Oct 2013 #22

Ok, there is a philosophy we don't really talk about orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #48

We don't talk about it, but the right does. pampango Oct 2013 #50

I think Prescott was the 30's on, and Poppy said 9/11/91 orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #58

How does the TPP impact outsourcing? Recursion Oct 2013 #44

It's the " after the fact " that bothers me, though Your right... orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #49

The problem is that they don't seem to enlightenment Oct 2013 #35

+1 daleanime Oct 2013 #97

We've been "engaged" for a long time zipplewrath Oct 2013 #104

How about a real critique of the TPP? Jasana Oct 2013 #113

No offense, maybe you should start with the TPP. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #59

We won't know about the elements of the proposed TPP until it's too late. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #67

Because he's a neoliberal. nt LWolf Oct 2013 #19

I thought he was doing it to piss off Cali. winter is coming Oct 2013 #23

i think YOU shouldn't call out other DUers. Don't do it to me again. thanks. cali Oct 2013 #85

You've been posting OP after OP about the TPP for weeks now. winter is coming Oct 2013 #109

He doesn't have much choice, we make hardly anything and we need to trade to exist. CK_John Oct 2013 #24

Is the US currently unable to import something in particular? leftstreet Oct 2013 #25

We import almost everything but the treaty is about opening up our exports CK_John Oct 2013 #26

Nonsense. That's not what it's about leftstreet Oct 2013 #27

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #29

Exactly! Spot on post Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #77

"corporate Trojan horse" - which pretty much describes our gov't at this point. Thanks for this post polichick Oct 2013 #106

Nonsense. The policy of shipping US manufacturing jobs to foreign countries has reduced our ability AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #31

Upthread you said solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #39

Jobs AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #28

Where? enlightenment Oct 2013 #37

The answer "Jobs" was given to the question "Is the US currently unable to import something in AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #38

Ah - enlightenment Oct 2013 #40

We manufacture more now than at any point in US history Recursion Oct 2013 #42

Facts don't matter treestar Oct 2013 #61

Free trade agreements are the cause of wholesale job loss to other countries. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #71

How do you know it was the free trade agreement, and that alone? treestar Oct 2013 #72

"As Recursion cited above" Enthusiast Oct 2013 #78

Well at least that was a fact treestar Oct 2013 #80

I'm not convincing anyone? The millions of us that lost jobs due to NAFTA need no convincing. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #91

I feel bad you lost your job but that does not treestar Oct 2013 #114

You continually defend the indefensible. Now you are defending NAFTA. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #115

As you said, manufacturing jobs have declined since the 1950's - long before NAFTA - while output pampango Oct 2013 #112

I live in Ohio. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #69

OH's manufacturing output has held steady at about $80 billion per year for over a decade Recursion Oct 2013 #70

80 billion a year in 2003 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #76

I googled this subject once and was surprised to learn treestar Oct 2013 #81

Depending on how you count; by some counts China passed us I think last year Recursion Oct 2013 #82

that's true cali Oct 2013 #87

Do we still have a textiles sector? (I ask in ignorance) Recursion Oct 2013 #89

It is gone. Dan River Mills in VA has been gone for many years, as are Nay Oct 2013 #93

yes. a big one. cali Oct 2013 #95

Cool, thanks Recursion Oct 2013 #96

Read the thing please. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #53

Won't guess as to why... 99Forever Oct 2013 #30

Good. 840high Oct 2013 #32

Because he's being lobbied Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #33

Corporations. Th1onein Oct 2013 #34

so long america..it`s been good to know ya... madrchsod Oct 2013 #36

Wheat and soybeans; software; cheap shirts Recursion Oct 2013 #41

NAFTA was designed to sell American corn into Mexico Kolesar Oct 2013 #56

Yup. Mexican ag suffered much more than American manufacturing Recursion Oct 2013 #57

Immigration--right out of Sherrod Brown's book, 2006 Kolesar Oct 2013 #62

NAFTA devastated American manufacturing. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #73

Then why does the US manufacture more now than before NAFTA? Recursion Oct 2013 #74

Because the US population has increased from 265 million Enthusiast Oct 2013 #86

Sigh Recursion Oct 2013 #88

It's part of the deal. mattclearing Oct 2013 #45

Lately I'm reminded of 2naSalit Oct 2013 #46

Except the exact same things were said about NAFTA Recursion Oct 2013 #47

Good question. Here's another: Why is No One on MSNBC besides Ed talking about it? whathehell Oct 2013 #52

Ed will stop talking about TPP in a negative way or join Olbermann on ESPN......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #98

I certainly hope you're wrong.. whathehell Oct 2013 #100

Because corporations run this country, not whatever figurehead we elect every four years. marmar Oct 2013 #54

I agree - and it'll take a lot of clear-eyed, determined people to change that. polichick Oct 2013 #107

Obama supports the corporations over the people. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #55

He is looking out for Americans of all kinds. treestar Oct 2013 #60

The President is looking out for the interests of the corporations Enthusiast Oct 2013 #63

He's doing the right thing for America, the extremely right-wing thing, that indepat Oct 2013 #102

I would love to see more facts on this treestar Oct 2013 #103

Ugh. The usual suspects Union Scribe Oct 2013 #105

I thought that right away Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #111

The dollar as the world's reserve currency. nt tsuki Oct 2013 #110

Banks, financial institutions, mega corporations. Rex Oct 2013 #117

Pres. Obama is serious on climate change. He is convinced we need action. raouldukelives Oct 2013 #118

Well, that would be wonderful - what are you basing this on? polichick Oct 2013 #119

In my belief that the President is a good & honest person. He feels we have a moral obligation raouldukelives Oct 2013 #121

Sure - "a good and honest person" who's tight with the 1%... polichick Oct 2013 #122

Oh that's why even Congress is left out of the loop, that being the case, orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #120