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TeamsterDem

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45. The C word is a gender slur? The Brits might be surprised by that
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:14 PM
Mar 2012

as would many people who say it without regard for gender. I don't want to turn this into a back-alley type discussion by providing examples, but I've used that word to men and about inanimate objects. That's not a point of pride, mind you - using foul language isn't exactly on my resume - but the point remains that even a non-sexist uses that word without necessarily referencing the gender of the target.

I don't think it's a "conscious movement," per se, but if one listens to jokes which fly back and forth between groups of friends, one notes that men now jokingly say things like "you dick" (to a woman) and a woman might refer to the guy with the C word. It's stripping the gender context from the words, and provided they're not said intentionally to reference the other person's gender, I think a rigid unwillingness to recognize that not everyone intends any harm with all of their commentary is as ridiculous as those who do in fact intend to offend a gender with some stereotypical or other kind of gender slur.

Bill Maher once called Sarah Palin a "bimbo." As shocked and offended as I was when I heard it I let him explain. When he did he explained that George W. Bush was also a "bimbo" in his eyes, explaining that in his view bimbo didn't have just the guttural sense most assumed, and he then offered his own interpretation of the word's true meaning.

And with respect to prostitution, feminism is the equality of the sexes. Provided a woman is not forced or otherwise coerced into the world's oldest profession - and provided she's of legal age - I think they should have the right to CHOOSE to do that. My own moral code is that I'd never use a prostitute nor encourage that lifestyle to any woman I might know. But I'd similarly not encourage a woman to have an abortion, yet I feel it's her right to choose that. So I'm not sure how Maher's stance on prostitution is any different than a pro-choice advocate holding that view.

I don't think Bill Maher is the nation's greatest champion of women's rights. But if one actually listens to him it's hard to make him out to be anywhere close to Limbaugh. It's such an absurd comparison, frankly, that one must wonder about those who make it.

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So... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #1
I was all over the Michael Richard's story Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #6
+x100 emilyg Mar 2012 #42
you are right, but..... Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #2
You're right, Maher does cross over Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #8
I hardly consider him pro feminist Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #9
Being pro prostitution and a womanizer makes one anti-feminist? redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #29
Prostitution has been a way of subjecting women Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #30
Yet, there are porn actresses and prostitutes who claim to do what they do by choice. redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #33
Some do it by choice, no doubt about it Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #35
So why not identify the cases where abuse is taking place and deal with them accordingly? redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #40
good luck with that Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #44
"white listing" redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #57
I have to agree with that Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #41
Pro feminist? He is constistently and grossly misogynst. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #10
Okay maybe I got the pro feminist Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #11
The C word is a gender slur? The Brits might be surprised by that TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #45
The vast majority of people who speak U.S. English and live in the U.S. are not British. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #48
Ahhh, so basically you're a person who can't separate between black, white, and gray areas TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #50
Apparently, you feel that personal attacks are the best way to approach this discussion. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #52
I didn't like his comment about Palin, but Palin is a public figure, giving as much as she gets. nanabugg Mar 2012 #22
pro-feminist? cali Mar 2012 #59
It's beginning to look that way Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #63
Limbaugh is the mouthpiece for Republican propaganda... rfranklin Mar 2012 #3
for you to suggest that Maher's show is simply comedy ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #4
But Maher is not the spewing piehole of the Republican Party. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #5
so it's ok for him to call someone who was running for the ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #7
When did Palin run for President? Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #36
I won't fight you on this Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #12
How about Ed Shultz? abowsh Mar 2012 #13
And got a week's suspension out of the deal. mac56 Mar 2012 #15
He also gave a real apology for it. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #27
yes he did, and he was suspended for it Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #20
Seriously? Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #21
I've been called a multitude of slurs... abowsh Mar 2012 #23
So you consider a 6 year old a wise philosopher? Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #31
What was it he called her, a corporate slut? Quantess Mar 2012 #24
Well good then you won't me calling you a Douchebag. trumad Mar 2012 #25
Ed should be held accountable Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #19
He called a woman a talk slut, a rotten phrase to use, specifically for trashing the President Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #37
Absolutely, I agree. mac56 Mar 2012 #14
I'm Tired Of The Equivelency Game... KharmaTrain Mar 2012 #16
The difference is that Limbaugh tries to influence public policy to fit his bigotry. Ian David Mar 2012 #32
They're both Dorian Gray Mar 2012 #17
I'll say it here like I said it in the other thread. Iggo Mar 2012 #26
Rush said it with hate. He wasn't trying to be funny. Just destructive. modem77 Mar 2012 #28
Oh, puh-leeeze! RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #34
Yea, that's my point Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #39
Sorry, I don't use double standards to rationalize my Ideals. bahrbearian Mar 2012 #38
They are both bad, but there seems to be one *large* difference jsmirman Mar 2012 #43
The difference is that JoeyT Mar 2012 #46
None of them gets a pass. WillowTree Mar 2012 #47
Hahaha!!! Maher defends Limbaugh. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #49
yup. proving his misogyny, maher really doesnt see much of a problem with what rush says. surprise? seabeyond Mar 2012 #60
Bill Maher is *NOT* on Armed Forces Radio. Big difference. Initech Mar 2012 #51
Maher is a good comedien who punches through to truths with his political/comedy. Rush applegrove Mar 2012 #53
My request would be to stop equating Fat Ass with anything considered news just1voice Mar 2012 #54
Nah, Maher's his own sort of slimeball Union Scribe Mar 2012 #55
Maher has stood up and defended this administration EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #56
No need. Maher just equated himself with 'ol Rushbo, and defended him. mikeytherat Mar 2012 #58
yup. nt seabeyond Mar 2012 #61
If you "don't care about context" in any situation then you are probably TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #62
Both Maher & Rush were wrong... NewJeffCT Mar 2012 #64
There is no comparison got root Mar 2012 #65
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