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In reply to the discussion: Krugman asks: So does this mean that liberals should have insisted on single-payer or nothing? [View all]former9thward
(33,424 posts)11. All or nothing rarely works.
Kennedy Saw Health-Care Reform Fail in the '70s
Asked about his greatest regret as a legislator, Ted Kennedy would usually cite his refusal to cut a deal with Richard Nixon on health care.
It was back in 1971 and President Nixon was concerned that he would once again have to face a Kennedy in the next year's election -- in this case a Kennedy with a proposal to extend health care to all Americans. Feeling the need to offer an alternative, Nixon asked Congress to require for the first time that all companies provide a health plan for their employees, with federal subsidies for low-income workers. Nixon was particularly intrigued by a new idea called health maintenance organizations, which held the promise of providing high-quality care at lower prices by relying on salaried physicians to manage and coordinate patient care.
At first, Kennedy rejected Nixon's proposal as nothing more than a bonanza for the insurance industry that would create a two-class system of health care in America. But after Nixon won reelection, Kennedy began a series of secret negotiations with the White House that almost led to a public agreement. In the end, Nixon backed out after receiving pressure from small-business owners and the American Medical Association. And Kennedy himself decided to back off after receiving heavy pressure from labor leaders, who urged him to hold out for a single-payer system once Democrats recaptured the White House in the wake of the Watergate scandal.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-08-28/opinions/36829695_1_health-care-health-insurance-insurance-exchanges
Asked about his greatest regret as a legislator, Ted Kennedy would usually cite his refusal to cut a deal with Richard Nixon on health care.
It was back in 1971 and President Nixon was concerned that he would once again have to face a Kennedy in the next year's election -- in this case a Kennedy with a proposal to extend health care to all Americans. Feeling the need to offer an alternative, Nixon asked Congress to require for the first time that all companies provide a health plan for their employees, with federal subsidies for low-income workers. Nixon was particularly intrigued by a new idea called health maintenance organizations, which held the promise of providing high-quality care at lower prices by relying on salaried physicians to manage and coordinate patient care.
At first, Kennedy rejected Nixon's proposal as nothing more than a bonanza for the insurance industry that would create a two-class system of health care in America. But after Nixon won reelection, Kennedy began a series of secret negotiations with the White House that almost led to a public agreement. In the end, Nixon backed out after receiving pressure from small-business owners and the American Medical Association. And Kennedy himself decided to back off after receiving heavy pressure from labor leaders, who urged him to hold out for a single-payer system once Democrats recaptured the White House in the wake of the Watergate scandal.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-08-28/opinions/36829695_1_health-care-health-insurance-insurance-exchanges
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Krugman asks: So does this mean that liberals should have insisted on single-payer or nothing? [View all]
kpete
Oct 2013
OP
They ALL said it! Every single Dem candidate in the primaries had a public option as
CTyankee
Oct 2013
#16
As a CT resident, I am SO ashamed of what Lieberman did to people like you and
CTyankee
Oct 2013
#47
You think there is any chance they'll give back a guaranteed 20% of a 3 trillion dollar pie?
Doctor_J
Oct 2013
#21
I dunno. Good luck in MIsssissippi...and other states where god knows the people
CTyankee
Oct 2013
#20
I actually believe (quite possibly naively) that taking away huge unfettered profits
etherealtruth
Oct 2013
#9
"Our next best hope is going to be nonprofit health insurance cooperatives."
etherealtruth
Oct 2013
#24
That's also what happens if you sign up for Medicare Part C or D, and even parts A and B
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Oct 2013
#51
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#14
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#43
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Doctor_J
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#61
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#62
False choice, I never was a single payer or bust sort but still believe that reform
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#17
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#31
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#55
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#33