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In reply to the discussion: Nine "Democrats" who would use your Social Security as a bargaining chip [View all]Veilex
(1,555 posts)44. Sent this to Patty Murry...
I would like to encourage everyone to do the same. Please contact any of these congress critters...particularly if they are representing your district.
I keep hearing from a number of sources, that Ms. Murry intends to use Social Security as a bargaining chip.
This puzzles me greatly. Particularly since Social Security pumps up job-generating and business activity by about $2 for every dollar recipients spend. This is according to a study by the AARP.
Similar studies by well respected economists have pointed out time and again that a spent dollar has a multiplicative effect on our economy.
So I guess what I'm getting at is this: Why is Social Security, a program that is vital not only for those who have retired, but for the stores, utilities and other services that rely on social security dollars from retirees, why is this program being considered for cuts (or the more current buzzword reform)? Cutting or reducing social security will cause an additional drag on the economy... and those who are responsible for such an act will most assuredly be remembered for such an act by the aging, and still voting, baby boomer generation.
Perhaps the answer Ms. Murry would provide would be something akin to: Social Security is running out of money. While I can understand this argument, I disagree with the proposed solution. Cutting or reducing funding for a program that helps stimulate the economy is akin to cutting off an arm because it got scraped and is bleeding. Instead, I posit that the proverbial band-aid for this economic scratch, is an infusion of jobs.
I realize that is an easier said-than-done solution, but it is ultimately the solution for a great many of our current ailments. I would suggest that economic stimulus be targeted at small businesses, as I believe that would have a far more profound impact for the overall populace.
Lastly, I recommend pushing to completely repeal the sequester. I'm sure you agree with this... But I want to point to this in the context of how it'll affect social security. As you know, people pay taxes. Taxes help fund a myriad of items, to include social security... it helps to keep people employed.
It just seems a bizarre spectacle to have the political leaders of the worlds wealthiest country buy into the premise that well-off Americans have run out of money and cannot do more to pay their fair share of taxes to help retirees and the poor.
Social Security as a bargaining chip should be taken off the table. If any negotiating over social security happens, it should be to lower the retirement age and increase the allotment to our elderly. It is passed time for Americans to respect their elders, and this would be a great first step.
This puzzles me greatly. Particularly since Social Security pumps up job-generating and business activity by about $2 for every dollar recipients spend. This is according to a study by the AARP.
Similar studies by well respected economists have pointed out time and again that a spent dollar has a multiplicative effect on our economy.
So I guess what I'm getting at is this: Why is Social Security, a program that is vital not only for those who have retired, but for the stores, utilities and other services that rely on social security dollars from retirees, why is this program being considered for cuts (or the more current buzzword reform)? Cutting or reducing social security will cause an additional drag on the economy... and those who are responsible for such an act will most assuredly be remembered for such an act by the aging, and still voting, baby boomer generation.
Perhaps the answer Ms. Murry would provide would be something akin to: Social Security is running out of money. While I can understand this argument, I disagree with the proposed solution. Cutting or reducing funding for a program that helps stimulate the economy is akin to cutting off an arm because it got scraped and is bleeding. Instead, I posit that the proverbial band-aid for this economic scratch, is an infusion of jobs.
I realize that is an easier said-than-done solution, but it is ultimately the solution for a great many of our current ailments. I would suggest that economic stimulus be targeted at small businesses, as I believe that would have a far more profound impact for the overall populace.
Lastly, I recommend pushing to completely repeal the sequester. I'm sure you agree with this... But I want to point to this in the context of how it'll affect social security. As you know, people pay taxes. Taxes help fund a myriad of items, to include social security... it helps to keep people employed.
It just seems a bizarre spectacle to have the political leaders of the worlds wealthiest country buy into the premise that well-off Americans have run out of money and cannot do more to pay their fair share of taxes to help retirees and the poor.
Social Security as a bargaining chip should be taken off the table. If any negotiating over social security happens, it should be to lower the retirement age and increase the allotment to our elderly. It is passed time for Americans to respect their elders, and this would be a great first step.
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Nine "Democrats" who would use your Social Security as a bargaining chip [View all]
Triana
Oct 2013
OP
Yeah, neither truth nor betraying your constituents is sufficient reason to
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#34
How about acknowledging the fact that there is no problem, and standing up
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#50
It has been, ad nauseum. If you missed ti it is because you don't want to know.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#60
That's not what I wrote. Your determined refusal to read what was written or to
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#62
You wrote that the figures came from a fantasy world, an "American Fantasy Epidemic"
bhikkhu
Oct 2013
#63
No, I didn't (although I did misspell 'it'). Re-read the post and kick this thread again.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#64
I agree and don't understand why Admins haven't put an end to stuff like the OP.
bluestate10
Oct 2013
#38
The statements made by the 9 Senators could mean almost anything. I will wait
bluestate10
Oct 2013
#41
Me too! I met him once at a dem fundraiser. He really seemed like a plastic fake
mucifer
Oct 2013
#27
They are threatening BOTH the Middle Class AND the Democratic Party's future viability.
Faryn Balyncd
Oct 2013
#28